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Newegg has the EVGA 03G-P4-2781-KR GeForce GTX 780 3GB PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card for $500 with free shipping. Includes Assasin's Creed: IV Black Flag gift coupon. Features a 863MHz clock speed and a max resolution of 4096 x 2160. Amazon also has it for the same price.
$500 Retail: $580

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    Casecutter Ben's cred: 1438
    Posted 8:17 am PST 01/14/14

    The Graphics card business has gotten so stale, that MSRP for a reference card with an old game package is what "constitutes" a deal now-a-days!

    Whatever is the reason(s) (mining, crypto-currencies /or underestimating stock levels) for AMD neither is so good for their "gaming initiatives". While price gouging at retailers this makes an exceptionally tough consideration for gamers to drop the cash. Even an Nvidia at MSRP and not even a compensatory rebate, doesn't pressure folk into thinking this is the right time to jump in.

    I upgraded a machine last week with a 270X that was $190, a nice P-C card, but man it's a hard point in considering or promoting upgrading. This was a teenager that had Christmas money burning a hole in his pocket. Figured better to spend it on that and be gaming, than watch the that money dwindle down hoping to save another $20-25 anytime soon. That card went up $15 a couple of days later and then went OoS, so the timing seemed after the fact... justifiable?

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    rosiesbar Ben's cred: 66
    Posted 9:07 am PST 01/14/14

    At this point most consumers with the cash and a want for a top end video card have paid retail for either an ATI or Nvidia offering so we wait for the market to soften. Time to catch up on that back log of old steam games. Hopefully the market softens enough for some good deals in 2014 but this may be year end if Nvidia releases the 800 series. We shall see.

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    Posted 1:17 pm PST 01/14/14

    rosiesbar wrote:
    Hopefully the market softens enough for some good deals in 2014 but this may be year end if Nvidia releases the 800 series. We shall see.
    If Litecoin goes "bust" the mid-range will tumble, with Ebay flooding with cheap AMD from 7950-290X.

    As to Nvidia and Maxwell with imbedded Denver CPU for enthusiast and mainstream isn't being projected till sometime Q3. We probably won’t hear much until their GTC 2014 (GPU Technology Conference) slated for the 24th March 2014. At this point the Maxwell codename is bantered about more for early mobile/notebook parts and then still on 28Nm process.
    As I’m stating perhaps a very stale… humdrum 2014. Rolling Eyes

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    Posted 11:53 am PST 01/15/14

    Flooding the market with cheaper 290s would be fantastic! This would crack the market on the 780s wide open.

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    Posted 12:26 pm PST 01/16/14

    The "flooding" of the "used" card market would be bad for both sides.

    As to Nvidia dropping price on GK110 any further I don’t know how much more wiggle room they want to give up. They may be holding profit sure, but also want to maintain their "Manifest Destiny" to holding a certain price point for what they see as their ultra-enthusiast cards. Hard to bring a Maxwell/Denver to market if all they can muster is $400-550 price point. I believe Nvidia blew their wad at a $500 for gelding GK110 and that’s something they now regret at least with the cryptocurrency/mining still going like gang-busters. I’d say they'd rather just manage volumes and have then dwindle down and go EoL rather than have a price war.

    Even AMD is stuck can't make drastic change in strategy: A) If they up orders for Hawaii by the time product hits the market Litecoin exchange rate could "tank" and AMD/AIB's are forced to incentify through codes, rebates etc. B) To overtly feed the Litecoin frenzy could "back-fire" at the worst time. As in when AMD starts to release next generation hardware and the exchange rate goes bust, all that equipment comes piling down on the used market. C) The same reason as Nvidia they don't want the price point to be dilute so far there’s little or no "meat on the bone" for Next generation enthusiast parts

    The way the current market is trending I wouldn't put hope on lower GK110 pricing. Heck the GTX 770 should be where Nvidia should consider garnering good sales and grabbing gamers away from AMD, but they aren't really doing anything for pricing on that. The October price drop was to $330, today on Egg one card is $320 a Zotac, after that price is chiefly $340-360 -AR, that's not being aggressive. That's at best 10% less than what an R9 290 would be pricing like ($380-400) if not for Litecoin mining, and the 290 kicks its doughnut with upwards of 15% performance. Heck a 770 is more akin to the 280X a…

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    Posted 10:00 am PST 01/18/14

    Your Litecoin is my FPS. I need a card to maintain 60 fps in today's games. Now or at a later date. The variable being price factors in a pound of Rib Eye. As I grow older I always found a good price for a pound of Rib Eye was $2.99. Now you would be hard pressed to find Rib Eye at this price but it is still a point of reference of what I consider a good deal + inflation + environmental factors. Now that I see Rib Eye go for $10+ dollars a pound it is no longer a food I will purchase regardless of of price + inflation + environmental factors. I will just eat Salmon at that price. When Rib Eye was $2.99 a pound top end video cards were $299. Top end now is $400 or it is no longer an option, I will just buy a console (salmon) regardless of price + inflation + environmental factors. Nice thing about video cards is they don't spoil and you can always buy one half eaten at a later date. The manufacturers will always run into the Rib Eye effect. There are only so many consumers that will buy a product at this price before moving on to salmon unless it's an Apple Product where all logic and reason are tossed aside. The market will bust on these cards one way or another as it is cheaper to simply pick up a console and wait. I suspect there will be a correction in general forcing a decrease in manufacturing cost in order to justify the price of R&D, materials and manufacture. The result will be felt not only in the sales of video cards but in the sale of PC games. This could be a problem if everyone simply moves to consoles especially now that Sony and Microsoft are using an X86 architecture. There will always be someone who will purchase a top end video card (Litecoin, CAD) but only so many people who can use it for something that needs that type of power. Games sell cards.

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    Posted 10:04 am PST 01/18/14

    What may prove interesting in the near future are other emerging technologies that would require less polygon pushing and allow consumers better use of existing video cards such as G Sync and the Occulus VR.

    It's going to be a long wait.

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