Ends at 10PM PT. Sellout.woot! has the Makita Cordless Drill Combo Set for $135 + $5 shipping = $140 shipped. Includes a 3/8" cordless impact wrench, 3/8" cordless driver-drill, flashlight, 2 NiCd batteries, charger and heavy duty 16" nylon tool bag.

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    btc909 Ben's cred: 439
    Posted 8:55 am PDT 10/7/12

    Ancient NiCAD crap.

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    dave_c Ben's cred: 3741
    Posted 10:57 am PDT 10/7/12

    NiCd is often superior to other battery tech, that's why it is still so common in cordless tools.

    More recharge cycles, while still retaining good cold weather performance, and much longer till they self-decay/shelf-rot. Li-Ion is great for a pro who has to hold (the weight of) a tool all day long but not so good for a homeowner who doesn't want to throw away their tools every 5 years because a replacement pair of batteries is cost prohibitive.

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    btc909 Ben's cred: 439
    Posted 4:00 pm PDT 10/7/12

    NiCAD (same with NiMH) runs dead quickly even without use, heavy, low run time.

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    dave_c Ben's cred: 3741
    Posted 10:54 pm PDT 10/7/12

    Yes NiCd has an inherent self discharge factor. Even so I stand by what I wrote, a homeowner can wait for a rapid charge cycle and reap the other benefits, while a pro may not be able to accept that.

    The price premium of Li-Ion is worth it if you use the tool constantly. Not so much if you don't.

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    zzyzx Ben's cred: 222
    Posted 7:13 am PDT 10/8/12

    #4, do you hold a membership in the NiCd Power Tool Association?

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    cbc Ben's cred: 9
    Posted 9:40 am PDT 10/8/12

    I would agree with #4. From what I read about Li_Ion batteries, the cells lose their capacity over time regardless.

    "A Standard (Cobalt) Li-ion cell that is full most of the time at 25 °C (77 °F) irreversibly loses approximately 20% capacity per year." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery

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    nextel2010 Ben's cred: 113
    Posted 1:22 pm PDT 10/8/12

    I'm just a weekend tool user, but I've been on li-on (LXT) for about 3 yrs now. Before that, I was on DeWalt XRP nicads. For me the price premium was worth it. So far the LXT's are holding up well. I also still use the XRP's, but have started switching over to the li-on XRP for the DeWalts too. I agree that the nicads are strong all-condition heavy duty but I was never able to get a lot of recharge cycles out of them even though I took all efforts to minimize the memory effects. Plus the nicads are HEAVY. Absolutely love the li-ons, and yeah, HATE the price. The Makita LXTs are expen$$ive, while the XRP nicads are expen$ive..lol. The DeWalt li-ons are top-flight, and even more expen$$$ive.

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