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eBay with mhestore2009 has the Ultrafire C8 Cree XM-L T6 LED Flashlight Kit for $15 with free shipping. Ships from Hong Kong. Has 5 modes, 1600 lumens output, air grade aluminum alloy construction and includes two batteries and a charger.
Retail: $62

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    TripWire Ben's cred: 18
    Posted 8:51 pm PST 03/3/14

    Take a look at March 2nd discussion. It is worth your time.

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    jesulin_k Ben's cred: -2
    Posted 6:50 am PST 03/4/14

    I posted this yesterday, since i don't see my posting here, I'm posting this again. This is a fake ultrafire. The originals are sold by ultrafire dot net. They are expensive but if you really want an ultrafire then please stay away from this. Another piece of information This seller had sold the same fake ultrafire for $13.98 as of late feb 2014. Now they are selling the same for $15. I'll let you make a call if that is a deal.....

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    dave_c Ben's cred: 3422
    Posted 8:44 am PST 03/4/14

    and I will post again too. Ultrafire is a Surefire knockoff brand, a generic that put a little effort into pretending otherwise but it's still a "fake" brand. The website is expensive only because they're tricking you into thinking they are somehow authentic/better/marketing.

    If the light looks the same then the odds are very high it was made on the same line in the same factory. Whether it was stamped with the Ultrafire name or some other is based on chance. That's how the Chinese clone factories roll.

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    Blade79 Ben's cred: 6
    Posted 1:31 pm PST 03/4/14

    FWIW, this seller does a lot of volume and he he currently has a couple variants of the this 1600lm light. From ones with no batteries to single and this double, he also has the Dive lights.

    As long as its brighter than my Led Lenser 200lm light its worht it to me, in for one.

    http://stores.ebay.com/mhestore2009/_i.html?_nkw=1600lm&submit=Search&_sid=880885555

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    Posted 6:52 pm PST 03/4/14

    dave_c Thanks for accepting this is a fake ultrafire. I never heard of a term called "fake brand". It is common sense that something is called fake when it is not authentic. I don't understand how you came to the conclusion that ultrafire is knock off of surefire. Let's say for argument sake what you said is true, the point I'm trying to make is Ultrafire isn't selling their product using surefire's name. They are selling it as Ultrafire and the original ultrafire is definitely a better quality one. There is something in this world called google.com please open it up and search to find out the difference between and fake and original ultrafire. The worst part is, the same fake ultrafires are available in amazon for $7.75 without battery and for $13.86 with battery and charger. Hope you at least understand $13.86 is less than $15. So It is not making any sense to buy this crap from a chinese cheater. There are enough thieves in amazon if you really want to get cheated with a fake ultrafire. why do I care? I got cheated by one of these slickers on amazon. I do not want anyone who wants a real ultrafire get mislead. From now on please think before posting some non sense....

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    Posted 11:50 pm PST 03/4/14

    ^ No you have it backwards. Ultrafire brand is made up and applied to lights another party produces as a fake of Surefire.

    Did you stop to consider that if this was a real company rather than just a relabeler, a storefront for a 3rd party, then they would not have just Ultrafire.net, an american centric URL as their company site. Their primary site would have a Chinese homepage too with a .HK or .CN domain suffix instead of .NET, but they don't even have one at all in their own country, because people in China know better.

    Do ask them where their factory is so you can find the company name on it and what other lights that look just the same are made by that company.

    If you see a flashlight that looks just like an Ultrafire, it is likely to be the exact same flashlight made in the same factory, just not stamped with the Ultrafire name on it. Chinese manufacturers do this all the time, no matter who was the original designer they ignore patents and keep making the same product for whoever will buy it and supply a stamp or packaging to back up the new brand or lack thereof.

    Lastly, that storefront perpetrates the same fraud as all the other generics. For example this 1 x AAA light that claims 300 lumens then 350 lumens:
    http://www.ultrafire-shop.net/UltraFire_Shop.php?view=productPage&product=114&category=10

    If that light even produces 200 lumens I will eat my hat.

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    Posted 9:54 am PST 03/5/14

    dave_C

    "No you have it backwards" Totally wrong. It is you who is confised

    'Ultrafire brand is made up and applied to lights another party produces as a fake of Surefire." so it be. I know I'm buying a ultrafire not a sunfire. Again you are missing my point. If ultrafire sells their products with surefire's brand name then it is called as "fake surefire"

    "Do ask them where their factory is so you can find the company name on it and what other lights that look just the same are made by that company. I don't have to ask them I have the original and a fake and I know how different the build quality is and the light pattern is. Please check with surefire where they are making it. i'm sure they will also get it from one of the factories in China.

    On the lumens I have no scientific way of measuring it. But the original Ultrafire is definitely brighter than the fake. Do you think this fake ultrafire sold by mhestore2009 is 1800 lumens? I bet you this fake ultrafire will not even be 1/4th of that. To campare it 55W halogen headlamp from a car is around 1000 Lumens

    Forget about all those things. How do you justify getting the same item for $13.86 from a U.S source where you can return it if you do not like it Vs buying it for $15 buying if from a chinese guy where you cannot even return it? and that's called a deal and that has to be advertised here in bensbargains.net???

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    Posted 10:10 am PST 03/5/14

    Jesulibacon, I don't own one from this seller so I can't vouch for the seller but I do know the exact same lights Ultrafire is selling are selling under other and no brand listings elsewhere.

    One sample that you claim is lower quality is not proof for your generalization. The fact is, the brightness is set by a simple passive component change on the driver board. Using the same LED and battery a generic can be every bit as bright as a major brand... that means nothing, actually the top shelf brands don't try to run their products as bright as possible because there is a disproportionately high battery drain for each visibly perceivable increase in brightness.

    If Surefire gets it from China, that's not the same thing as getting it from the SAME factory in China. You don't seem to understand the difference, when the same particular factory makes the same exact product for more than one brand name. Surefire's factory does not make the same lights for any other brand name or generic.

    Do whatever you like but a lot of people are happy with their $13 to $15 Ultrafires you claim are fake. I do agree it makes more sense to buy from US warehouse stock when the price difference isn't much.

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    Posted 11:43 am PST 03/5/14

    "I don't own one from this seller so I can't vouch for the seller but I do know the exact same lights Ultrafire is selling are selling under other and no brand listings elsewhere. " - When you don't own a original ultrafire you shouldn'e be even talking about this. How do you know the one Ultrafire selling and these fake are the same? or even made in the same factory. I can say they are different because I own both the fake and original.
    "One sample that you claim is lower quality is not proof for your generalization" - It is not just me. It is all over the internet. Let's assume even if it is me, are you telling me I shouldn't post my experience with this fake ultrafire here?
    "If Surefire gets it from China, that's not the same thing as getting it from the SAME factory in China" - May be true may be not. The surefire's and ultrafire's may be from the same factory. Can I prove it is from the same factory? No. Can you prove it is from the different factory? I don't think so. That's not my intension of posting anything here. The only reason I posted a warning here is I do not want anybody who wants a original ultrafire to get carried away.
    Just because two different brands are made in the same factory they cannot use another brands name. For g foxconn makes lost of electronics for the top brands like apple... So does than mean it is ok for anyone who uses foxconn to manufacture their produts to market their product with Brand name Apple & apple logo?
    "Do whatever you like but a lot of people are happy with their $13 to $15 Ultrafires you claim are fake." - Exactly did I ask people not to buy this? NO I just posted a warning for people who wanted a original ultrafire. You came in defense as if you are the owner for this phony ultrafire company or may be you make few bucks from this ebay seller. Hope you are not.

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    Posted 11:48 am PST 03/5/14

    "I do agree it makes more sense to buy from US warehouse stock when the price difference isn't much." - That's exactly my second point. It is not even the difference in price it is cheaper to buy from a U.S source. Remember we are on a website where good delas are posted. Is this even a deal? Why this should be even posted here?

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    Posted 6:08 pm PST 03/5/14

    Is it a deal to get a XM-L LED flashlight for $15?

    Yes, with batteries and a charger. I think I've spent enough time on this topic, it's not like this is the first time this light has been in the market.

    One last time I will restate my point. Ultrafire is a generic brand, not something you should pay more for thinking it's some premium brand. The exact same lights are sold many places for less than half as much as that seemingly 3rd party, deceptive ultrafire web site.

    If you want to be taken to the cleaners for the same thing because you are too worried about light others are happy with, then be my guest.

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