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Good price. I would ignore the rebate on something like this, but it's still a good price. I already have a 4670 myself. The 5xxx series really pushed the 4xxx prices down.

good card , good price , rebate took 6 weeks....

should have waited a bit longer for a card like this

IMO, the market for cards like this is soon to disappear. We now have 1920x 1080 monitors at $100, and even those who are content with their lesser resolution monitors will find it hard not to go for the higher resolution next time they want/need one.

Sure, you could just play at non-native resolution and have blurry dithering on screen, or have it letterboxed at a lower resolution, but who really wants to do that?

IMO, for this reason there is becoming a divide. There are dirt cheap cards for someone who either doesn't game, only plays ancient games, or just needs more video output options than their motherboard offers, AND on the other hand there are those who need to be able to play semi-modern games at the resolutions supported by contemporary monitors in the $100 and up price range (even that is being generous, many people won't even look at sub-$200 monitors).

So I suppose if you are clinging for dear life to your old 1280x, maybe as high as 1680x, you can get some use out of this. And it's fruity blue.

dave_c wrote:

IMO, for this reason there is becoming a divide. There are dirt cheap cards for someone who either doesn't game, only plays ancient games, or just needs more video output options than their motherboard offers, AND on the other hand there are those who need to be able to play semi-modern games at the resolutions supported by contemporary monitors in the $100 and up price range (even that is being generous, many people won't even look at sub-$200 monitors). So I suppose if you are clinging for dear life to your old 1280x, maybe as high as 1680x, you can get some use out of this. And it's fruity blue.

What is written by #4 is a under the guise of not being portentous.
Maybe it was my fifth or sixth time trying to understand this, and then it just lost any semblance of meaning.

Sure cards like this are for one-thing; giving those with a 300-350W PSU in some low end Acer, Gateway, Dell etc, the ability to game "semi-modern" games at the resolutions supported by contemporary monitors, and I don't consider that at 1920x. Remember like 18 months ago to do this you couldn't without >400W's, and an investment of $150-200, life is good.

That said, if you have the desire to game with latest titles and at 1920x you will want to invest in a PSU that supports a 5750 or better, or wait till January for the 5670. As that's looking to be refined enough to give decent 1920x performance and with lower power requirement.

Let's face it not like your going to run a GT240 on the PSU's that most current "budget systems" include or use it to game at 1920x either.

<table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Casecutter wrote:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">

What is written by #4 is a under the guise of not being portentous.
Maybe it was my fifth or sixth time trying to understand this, and it just lost any semblance of meaning. </td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">

Ok, I'll restate. Someone would be nuts to try and save $20 to settle for a sub-1680x, maybe even to save $40 on a 1920x monitor next time they buy one, if they aren't at that resolution already.

Some would even say having a monitor at least at the above resolutions or higher is more important than having a gaming video card.

Having considered that, if you want to game you have to buy something that can push that many pixels.

<table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Sure cards like this are for one-thing; giving those with a 300-350W PSU in some low end Acer, Gateway, Dell etc, the ability to game "semi-modern" games at the resolutions supported by contemporary monitors, and I don't consider that at 1920x. </td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">

If someone wants to game and their OEM PSU can't cut it, they'll have to buy a new PSU too. It is one of many reasons not to buy a low end OEM system. Sure it's a higher expense to buy a PSU too, but if that's what it takes, that's what it takes.

If a card can't at least play today's games, nevermind tomorrow's, you're already behind the curve. What is a "contemporary" monitor if not one widely available at low cost? C'mon, get real, 1920x now cost $100 on sale as seen two days ago, or there are more than you can list at $200 and below which is hardly expensive f... [Truncated]

dave_c your elitist-smugness is showing... One crappy monitor deal right now does not mean their at that price from this time forward. Secondly if I was buying a monitor today I'd be looking a good quality or maybe like a LED back-lite, then going with some defect ridden poor performance 1920X being dumped into the market for cheap. Face it you live and look at a monitor for everything... it's a better long term investment.

If you're buying a 1920x monitor, and gaming is what you already do or intend to do with more than amiable results then yes you'd want to back it up with the rest of the stuff. Although most that already own a mainstream system and are thinking of "trying" gaming will probably be at 1620x or below.

I was saying 18mo ago to play at this 4670 level.... you needed both the PSU and $150-200 for a video card. And yet people played and gamed (enjoyed) at that level, they didn't have a choice. Today you get that with $60, where's the problem in that?

Today the 5750 is not middle ground?

Lastly, I don't believe anyone in their right mind buys a computer jumping head first into PC gaming, for most everyone I've ever know it's a slow addiction. So this is where many folks start... thankfully. As if you thought... "Wow I'll drop $600-800 minimum and see if I like it"...
PC gaming would have ceased to exist many years ago when consoles came of age.

<table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Casecutter wrote:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">dave_c your elitist-smugness is showing... One crappy monitor deal right now does not mean their at that price from this time forward. </td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">

Put simply, you are wrong. Look on Newegg, sort for 1920x monitors and the entire first page is under $200 without any rebates, starting at $140 with free shipping. THEN consider there are recurring sales to take advantage of.

<table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Secondly if I was buying a monitor today I'd be looking a good quality or maybe like a LCD back-lite, then going with some defect ridden poor performance 1920X being dumped into the market for cheap. Face it you live and look at a monitor for everything... it's a better long term investment.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">

Sure, spend more to get higher quality if you like, but paying a premium for a lower resolution than 1920x is a poor value to most people now that prices have yet again dropped on this higher resolution.

<table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I was saying 18mo ago to play at this 4670 level.... you needed both the PSU and $150-200 for a video card. And people played and gamed (enjoyed) at that level, they didn't have a choice. Today you get that with $60, where's the problem in that?

Today the 5750 is not middle ground?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> ... [Truncated]

<table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>dave_c wrote:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">We now have 1920x 1080 monitors at $100, and even those who are content with their lesser resolution monitors will find it hard not to go for the higher resolution next time they want/need one.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">
dave_c you started the discussion on the argument on 1920x monitors at $100, now your backpedaling to $140 all the way to sub $200. I really think the few 1920x panels that are at the price you'd suggested wouldn’t be any more worth buying than the card you try to disparage.

Sure purchasing anything today less than a decent quality 1920x doesn't hold any value, though I still ascertain that most folks who have a 1680x on their desk aren’t or weren’t considering a monitor when they click to look at this deal on a budget VGA card.

From what you've written... don’t even think of considering getting your toe wet, you must dive-in head first with money. So, let’s see one low end monitor $150 (but to be as good as you they’d need 3); acceptable gaming card that will provide those "minimum framerate" while being futureproof, and support 3 monitors $250, a new PSU $40 min... Finding that your CPU and 1Gb ram is limiting FPS... so you'll need at least an i5, new mobo and oh yea 6Gb of decently fast ram... $450 minimum! Then don't forget the OEM case sucx's, so Antec 900... $60. Plus you can’t play without kick’n speakers and gaming keyboard and mouse cause, well you need that to be a real gamer so another $150. Now they’ll be able to determine if PC gaming is fun once they figure out how to get it all working.
Thanks dave_c for terrify everybody from even contemplating sta... [Truncated]

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