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"Refurbished" generally means purchase new and returned - pretty much new condition.

In this case, it means nothing less than "USED". These are off-lease computers that have been used for a year or more in an office environment (for desktops) or hauled all over the place (for laptops.)

and you know this how, #1? i have a dell refurbished computer and it came looking and performing like brand new

We only purchase dell laptops at work. When there's a problem, we image a new one and send it out as a replacement. We take the old ones, wipe them down with cleaner, reimage them and redeploy. I reimaged an inspiron 1000 a couple of weeks ago.

It looked new, and performed like new. It is however, well dated.

I wouldn't want something that someone has used for a year or more when it comes to a laptop. What's your source #1?

read the web site
these are off lease machines.
I'm not knocking it, just the facts.
Look at the warranty dates.
They all just came off.

this coupon/link is for "dell financial services", these are used off-lease computers. "dell outlet" has customer returns that are "like new" (for the most part) and with full dell new computer warranty & support. very different and hard to tell from the post, I would not hesitate to recommend dell outlet's refurbished computers, but I have not purchased from dell financial services because they are used systems that aren't much le$$ than dell outlet.

Because, #2, I clicked on the link. You have a refurbished computer from Dell Outlet, not DFS.

DFS is not the same as Dell Outlet. They sell old, used computers.

#3, my source is the link Ben posted a few inches above your comment.

buy a mac

These are off lease systems. You will get a used system.

Outlet is the way to go.

All is correct about them being used. However, if you look at the D820s, they have up to core 2 2.0 or 2.3 with almost a year left on the factory warranty. The price was A LOT better yesterday....get it shipped (no sales tax) for $550 for a 2.2 core 2, 3gRAM, 100G HD, 128VidRAM. Sure it's a year old unit, but the 8xx's are well reviewed; MUCH better than the 6500s that have replaced the D8xx series.

I'm with you #7.

Then why would click on a deal from Dell? Hoping you might find some Mac deals there?

#10, Stevech, what were the prices like yesterday?

"The price was A LOT better yesterday...."

I got a D610 with 2GB memory from them in January with 30% off. Final cost $213.

Yesterday they had around $50 off many of the units PLUS 25% off anything over $499!