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#1
intense321 - Posted 5:20 pm PDT 08/21/07 (188 Posts)
This is a great hard drive if you want to lose your data within 1 month of installation.
#2
zzz - Posted 5:30 pm PDT 08/21/07 (96 Posts)
#3
sethticlees - Posted 5:31 pm PDT 08/21/07 (94 Posts)
data's way over rated anyway.
#4
telstar - Posted 5:47 pm PDT 08/21/07 (302 Posts)
think of it as a monthly fresh start....
#5
toddsucks2 - Posted 5:51 pm PDT 08/21/07 (2400 Posts)
#1: What was the size of your sample set that let you determine that statistically Maxtor's fail after a month? What percentage fail? What type of usage pattern were you looking at?
Please, enlighten us all.
sincerely,
toddsucks
Please, enlighten us all.
sincerely,
toddsucks
#6
majinfusion - Posted 5:55 pm PDT 08/21/07 (137 Posts)
Bought 2 Maxtors in the past and both literally died 1 day after the 30 day return for refund/replace date from newegg and a separate one from buy.com
Yes yes, I know that Seagate now takes care of the returns..which is nice, because what I got back was just that and it's been running ever since without a hiccup.
#7
Ima_Cheapass - Posted 6:16 pm PDT 08/21/07 (436 Posts)
Go right ahead and buy as many Maxtor drives as you want honey, us men will stick with shit that works to archive our important man data (porn).
#8
toddsucks2 - Posted 6:22 pm PDT 08/21/07 (2400 Posts)
#7: Ignoring your nonsensical sexism - if I give you an apple and you find a worm in it, your conclusion is going to be that all apples have worms in it. A wise person would understand that some apples will have worms in them. The trick is to knowing whether some types of apples are more or less prone to having worms in them.
Your reply is ridiculous.
sincerely,
toddsucks
Your reply is ridiculous.
sincerely,
toddsucks
#9
Ima_Cheapass - Posted 6:41 pm PDT 08/21/07 (436 Posts)
Anyone that thinks sexism is nonsensical is either too young or too dumb. We're equally good at different things - there is as much need for both sexes, just not here.
Any person who has spent significant time on Ben's, or experienced the joy of maxtor ownership over the companies life, would know better than to trust a maxtor. By throwing doubt of their dubious reliability into the ring with your bullshit statistical misdirection, you are encouraging fellow Ben's shoppers to consider this manufacturer. Clearly the sign of a vengeful person (as if the name wasn't a dead giveaway). Data (porn) loss is something no man would wish on another.
Now, if you are considering a fault tolerant raid environment, perhaps some cheap, loud and unreliable drives are the way to go... for someone more in touch with their feelings I guess. Of course you didn't mention that in your earlier statements ... no doubt expecting us to read your fucking mind... another glaring indicator of a Y chromosome deficiency. Men know we are not mind readers.
#10
peas - Posted 6:53 pm PDT 08/21/07 (579 Posts)
fortunately the the rest of us ghetto dogs know that #1's single bad experience (as unfortunate as it may have been) is statistically insignificant. Think about it this way, does intense321 think that sex is terrible just because his first time with his mom didn't go the way he imagined it would?
#11
soccermomluv_ - Posted 6:57 pm PDT 08/21/07 (177 Posts)
toddsucks is correct...but gave the tech guru #1 too much credit. if #1's fat little sausage fingers covered with spooge didn't drop the drives prior to installation, they would work much more reliably.
#12
Ima_Cheapass - Posted 7:15 pm PDT 08/21/07 (436 Posts)
http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/computer/data-backup.htm
If you fools wanna laugh in the face of logic (yet another typically female trait), go for it and Maxtor yourself to rapture. Part of the Ben's experience is gleaning info off other's posts. I understand this is a completely foreign concept for you Toddsucks2, but for the rest of us, who are paying a little attention, it's a big part of why we come here.
#13
soccermomluv_ - Posted 7:20 pm PDT 08/21/07 (177 Posts)
oh, lighten up, cheap@ss. you sound like a bitter old middle aged man that got his butt taken to the cleaners in a divorce. every drive manufacturer has had bad lots, bad models, etc. show MTBF stats for this model or STFU.
#14
testmonkey - Posted 7:21 pm PDT 08/21/07 (134 Posts)
Its nice to know that intelligent and enlightened debate on Ben's site hasn't been replaced by moronic, post-happy, flamecidal ranting.
#15
fake_ben - Posted 7:25 pm PDT 08/21/07 (197 Posts)
if it mattera any, I've owned a maxtor, and it died. I've owned two WD and they havent died yet.
#16
essjae - Posted 8:04 pm PDT 08/21/07 (59 Posts)
You are a tech god! You've administered 120 machines in 10 years...<sigh>.
Your link is proof of nothing, no sample size, etc.
I've had Maxtors running in servers for years with no issues.
Your link is proof of nothing, no sample size, etc.
I've had Maxtors running in servers for years with no issues.
#17
intense321 - Posted 8:30 pm PDT 08/21/07 (188 Posts)
I had no idea my initial assertion would spawn such controversy. toddsucks2: My sample size is over 2500 drives, over about a 20 year timeframe. Serving as a network administrator for a large corporation, I can say that my p value is less than 0.1 when I say that my failure rates are significantly higher for Maxtor drives than any of the other manufacturers. I don't have the exact data with me but I can compile it and send it to you if you tell me where to email it. My advice is to spend $10 more and get a WD or Seagate drive. If you take your chances with the Maxtor, good luck!
#18
intense321 - Posted 8:34 pm PDT 08/21/07 (188 Posts)
I know that just because I had a problem with the Maxtor drives doesn't necessarily mean that you will. We typically order drives 100-200 at a time, so it's entirely possible we just got a few bad batches. I do remember about 10 Maxtors failing within 2 days last year. I've had WDs, Seagates, and IBM drives fail as well, but just not nearly in the sheer numbers that the Maxtors did. I would rate the relative failure rates (from low to high as follows): 1) Seagate 2) WD 3) Hitachi 4) IBM 5) Maxtor. Just one overworked netadmin's take though. Take it or leave it. No big deal..
soccermom: I'm not even sure how to respond to your comment about my spooge and sausage fingers. You hurt my feelings. I'm crying now.
soccermom: I'm not even sure how to respond to your comment about my spooge and sausage fingers. You hurt my feelings. I'm crying now.
#19
soccernomluv_ - Posted 8:35 pm PDT 08/21/07 (108 Posts)
I am a soccer mom and I know all there is to know about everything.
I bought one of these Maxtors 2 weeks ago for $80 w/ free shipping. This is no deal.
I bought one of these Maxtors 2 weeks ago for $80 w/ free shipping. This is no deal.
#20
sopranos2 - Posted 9:13 pm PDT 08/21/07 (9 Posts)
sample size=5
Under similar conditions (e ups/machine/workload/uptime etc..)
2 WD = 2 dead
2 Maxtor = 1 dead + 1 started to give write failures
1 Seegate = Still running flawlessly.
Under similar conditions (e ups/machine/workload/uptime etc..)
2 WD = 2 dead
2 Maxtor = 1 dead + 1 started to give write failures
1 Seegate = Still running flawlessly.







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