Ben's Bargains

NewEgg.com HannsG HG-281DPB 28" Widescreen LCD $450 Discuss (0)

NewEgg.com Hanns.G 19" 5ms DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor $150 Discuss (0)

CompUSA.com Westinghouse 25.5" Widescreen Flat-Panel LCD $330 Discuss (0)

Dell Home Dell E207WFP 20" Widescreen LCD $199 Discuss (0)

I bought this last week and received it yesterday. Very good video quality. The speakers are awful. Tax was another $15 in OH. Still a great deal! My daughter in CA bought one. Ben - you're about a week late on this one!

i got this deal a month and a half ago (ok, + 10 bucks) and that deal had been going on for at least a couple of weeks before that already. all in all a great screen - i wonder what kind of stock they are trying to get rid of there...

FYI - Ben posted it last week also.

I agree with #3!

Got one last week after Ben posted it. Wish I'd had the free shipping code then, though. Monitor seems to work really well. Uses generic monitor driver in Windows....CD only has the instruction manual on it in PDF format.

wtf.. they charge tax in TX

Wow, this deal sounds incredible. How does it do on dark images? I have a 17" with a dead pixel which has some significant ghosting when the screen is dark or near black and has been on for a few minutes. It's extremely noticeable on stuff like Doom 3, and even the default Windows XP screen saver leaves an imprint as the logo pops around. I've been thinking of replacing it and this looks like a significant upgrade on paper.

the rebate coupon listed is for $20, not $120

Truxhope: That's what I thought at first too, but there's also a $100 rebate on the site for a total of $120. I've just ordered one myself.

Yes, 2 rebate forms, but this item no longer appears in their catalog, sold out I guess. Too bad.

This is (or was, if they don't restock) a great deal for $100 but there are a few limitations. I've seen plenty of 19" but the only one of that size I could put side-by-side for extensive comparison was a 19" BenQ FP91G+. The drawbacks of the HC-194D compared to it (and others I've seen but did not so closely, directly compare side-by-side) include:

- Quite significant light bleedthrough along both sides, ok for daytime use but unacceptible for movies at night.

- Dithering to get more colors from this 6-bit panel, poor- you will see bands in gradual color gradient areas, significantly moreso than on some other 6 bit panels. In other words, 6 bits alone (versus 8 ) isn't necessarily so bad, if it's dithered well. This one doesn't dither well at all.

- DVI works great (as DVI, but the monitor still has the other mentioned limitations), analog is fuzzier and has slight ghosting (comparing directly to the FP91G+, using same system and cable swapped between the two at native res., 60/70/75Hz refresh and all modes of sharpening and all other menu tweaks didn't resolve. I tried a better cable, it did not help. Same cable manages to transmit at least 1600x1200 analog without this problem at all on the FP91G+, it isn't the cable.

- Odd sort of scanline-like artifacting on moire-like patterns displayed on screen. On some uses you may not notice but the moment you get an image up that causes it, you will hate that it does it.

- Colors not as vibrant, the 700:1 contrast ratio is not really as high as the 550:1 spec'd for the FP91G+. I'd call the ratio closer to 430:1

- Base (stand) doesn't snap fully into the back support, I pushed and wiggled and was afraid if I pushed any harder it might be very bad on the monitor, but the plastic locking tabs, didn't (lock in to slots in base). Not a big deal "maybe", it is stable enough in use on a desk but if you accidentall... [Truncated]

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- Speakers hardly worth anything, they might as well have pocketed the $1 saved by not including them and made the bezel sleeker by not putting those moldings across it and having it thinner to match the top and sides. This is true on many monitors but maybe even moreso on this one.

- Cheap generic looking casing, a fault some other monitors have but even a minimalistic stylings of matte plain frame would have been better, and a different base shape.

- More limited tilt adjustment than some, it doesn't tilt forward at all and not back very far. Granted most won't need forward tilt but those who do (Or those who need more backwards than the average user, beware. I forgot to measure in degrees, sorry.

- Limited space to plug in power cord, DVI Or analog cables. It's not a big deal to get them in but it was a senseless oversight on their part when the designed the case.

- Cable retention clip on back of stand is very flimsy, would struggle to hold 3 decent quality (thick) power/DVI/analog cables.

EVEN with all these detractions, for $100 (but not for $150 or more, AR) I think it beats $100 worth of CRT mostly for the DVI per-pixel precision crispness factor (any DVI LCD would) and is usable as a secondary monitor for 2D windowed work but no movies or picture editing/imaging related work.

The response time surprisingly didn't result in much ghosting, it did better in gaming than I expected. The menu was fiddly to navigate and the shipping box not as sturdy as some.

I would easily pay more for a primary monitor, for my main-use system it's limitations are definitely, not just barely, unacceptible (but recall the more significant improvement going to DVI with this one, DVI is highly recommended with it), but I still think for what it can do (and being 19") it is a good deal at $100 AR. It was shipped quickly now time will tell about the lifespan and the rebate.

I have bought one last week and got a quick shipment. However when i tried to get the rebate form, i could not not find it on PC connection site. The PC connection has shown a rebate form but it expired on 8/31. When i tried the on-rebate site, it will not let me fill with sept date.Did anyone else has similiar problem?
Does anyone has a copy of $100 reabte which shows sept as expiry?

I have the same problem as #14: The product and rebate have been removed from the site. Does anyone have the link? UPC says 4265100014, which is different that the rebate forms shown when you try to find the item.

nhkhan22 wrote:

I have bought one last week and got a quick shipment. However when i tried to get the rebate form, i could not not find it on PC connection site. The PC connection has shown a rebate form but it expired on 8/31. When i tried the on-rebate site, it will not let me fill with sept date.Did anyone else has similiar problem? Does anyone has a copy of $100 reabte which shows sept as expiry?

Did you ever find it? The PCConnection product page still has this rebate ongoing, those are applicable still.

$20 Rebate,
http://service1.pcconnection.com/RebateCenter/11659.pdf

$100 Rebate,
http://service1.pcconnection.com/RebateCenter/12150.pdf

Well, here it is in March 2007 and I never got my $100 rebate (got the $20 one months ago). I tried searching for it's status on the rebateshq web site and found nothing, so I've sent an e-mail asking for it's status. I have a funny feeling I won't like the response but I won't pass judgment just yet.

As to the monitor, overall I'm happy with it. I'm using the DVI cable it came with and my only complaint is that sometimes for no apparent reason I'll turn the monitor on and all pixels of a certain color will be solid red. I usually don't notice it unless I have something running that's using that certain color, then I'll have red dots mysteriously dancing around the screen. It rarely happens and is fixed by power cycling the monitor, but it is disturbing none the less. Otherwise it's better than my old monitor, so I'm happy. I wouldn't have willing paid $200 for it though.

My $100 rebate was approved, but now almost a year later I still have not received it. The rebate status at rebateshq.com has the following message:

Please be advised: Parago, Inc. is a provider of rebate processing services for its clients. As a rebate processor, Parago works on behalf of Wintergreen Systems to receive mail, perform data entry services, receive customer service calls, print checks, and perform other services associated with its promotions. For the submission in question, Parago performed data entry on the submission, and forwarded the information to Wintergreen Systems for approval and funding. To date, Parago has not received such approval and funding from Wintergreen Systems. Until Wintergreen Systems forwards additional funding for the promotion in question to Parago, Parago will not be able to mail any additional consumers checks under the promotions. We apologize for any frustration this has caused, and will process the reward as soon as we are provided the required funding and approval by Wintergreen Systems. In the interim, we suggest you contact Wintergreen Systems directly, at:

Wintergreen Systems
2510 Sterling Avenue
Elkhart, IN 46516
(574) 295-9054 ext. 110

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