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#15 these for clocks and remotes? Not! They will go flat in no time. Eneloops will work for that. Spend a fortune? When you see how long these last you will realize cheap doesn't mean a bargain..

Rechargeable batteries vary so much in quality that I'd stick with well known brands only.

Crash And Burn wrote:

As #13 mentioned the LaCross charger is great.

That's exactly what I use for my Energizer and Sanyo Enelope NiMH batteries. About 1 out of every 10 mis-discharges/mis-charges, so I can only imaging how bad it is when people don't discharge.

Great posts. Wish I had read them before I bought a bunch of crap off Ebay. Half of the two dozen batteries (2600 mAh advertised) will not hold a charge at all. Even my wireless thermometer bleeds them dry in a day...I hate Ebay. And Chinese junk. Oh, and when waiters squat down next to the table like we're best friends already. I really hate that.

<table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>dave_c wrote:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Discharging then recharging senselessly wastes a fraction of their life, no properly designed NiMH needs this unless it had sat for months.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> Not true at all, especially not with NiMH>

<table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>dave_c wrote:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">NiCd, not NiMH have phantom charge level issues. If you find NiMH have this problem you are not using a properly working charger - any typical $15 Delta-V charger does not have this problem.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> No, NiCD has more phantom issues than NiMH, but NiMH still has them. I find that 1 out of 10 NiMH batteries I have (all Energizer and Sanyo Enelope) will charge to sub-2,000mAh if I don't fully discharge.

That might be fine for most electronics using 1A or less. But my Pentax K100D can suck up to 2A, and it just doesn't cut it.

<table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>dave_c wrote:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Eneloop do not lose a very significant % of charge within a month, plenty of people have tested this and it is essentially the reason they exist. Unfortunately if someone were needing max runtime for an event they plan beforehand, the lower initial capacity is as much of a drawback as having to charge a set of higher capacity batteries shortly, within days before the event.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> Yes, that's what I'm talking about.

My Energizer and Sanyo Enelope will stay at around 2,000mAh for some time (months, possibly almost a year). But their "initial overcharge" of... [Truncated]

TheBS wrote:

dave_c wrote: Discharging then recharging senselessly wastes a fraction of their life, no properly designed NiMH needs this unless it had sat for months. Not true at all, especially not with NiMH>

It is proven fact.

In short, what I wrote was correct and industry proven, go argue with the entire world because any google search will prove it.

The one exception is your particular camera. If it is especially strange about battery power, we can ignore it's response except for users who have it, in which case data about it is very valuable.

<table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>dave_c wrote:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">It is proven fact.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>dave_c wrote:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">In short, what I wrote was correct and industry proven, go argue with the entire world because any google search will prove it.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">
You explicitly used the term (bolded) ...
<table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>dave_c wrote:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Discharging then recharging senselessly wastes a fraction of their life, no properly designed NiMH needs this unless it had sat for months.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">
I was not taking issue with any technical facts.
I was taking major issue with the term "senseless."
Context is everything. <img src="http://bensbargains.net/forum/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" />

I still see about 1 in 10 NiMH batteries "partial charge" when they are not drained with every charger, especially quick chargers. With a "partial charge," that can be a major issue when the current draw is high, and one NiMH in the serial circuit isn't pulling its own weight.

<table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>dave_c wrote:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">The one exception is your particular camera. If it is especially strange about battery power... [Truncated]

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