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Posted at 7:44 AM on Friday 03/26/10 by
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    Forbidden - Posted 7:47 am PDT 03/26/10 (803 Posts)  Report Spam

    Just dont buy this card and analog speakers with it like my stupid friends do!
    Make sure you get digital speakers!
    World of difference for not much more...

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    TheMax7 - Posted 7:52 am PDT 03/26/10 (1209 Posts)  Report Spam

    #1 do you have a link to these 'Digital Speakers'? I would really like to look into these to replace my old school analog ones. Thanks!

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    Forbidden - Posted 8:03 am PDT 03/26/10 (803 Posts)  Report Spam

    #2
    Wow, the websites now make it hard to see if the speakers are digital or not probably for a good reason so they can sell analogs all day. Rule of thumb..if the speakers have a green plug on them they are analog. If they have a yellow\orange one on them (or digital adapter) they are digital.
    I have these and they fing rock!
    http://www.hardwarezone.com/reviews/others/fps2000/fps-2000.htm

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    dave_c - Posted 8:20 am PDT 03/26/10 (17698 Posts)  Report Spam

    Again I'd like to remind Forbidden that digital inputs on lowly computer speakers make very little difference.

    You are MUCH better off putting the money into a quality amp (chip), cabinet, and drivers. Only after buying a high end speaker with these favorable attributes should you bother spending more on digital inputs.

    I have to think #1/3 has read some marketing propaganda and not compared equal quality gear otherwise because I am sure #1 cannot blind ABX test and tell the difference.

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    TheMax7 - Posted 8:26 am PDT 03/26/10 (1209 Posts)  Report Spam

    Those have worse specs than the ones I currently have.

    14W 10% THD ???? Mains
    25W 10% THD ???? Sub
    Frequency Range 50Hz - 20kHz

    How can digital have distortion? its digital it should be perfect. confused again. I think I will stick my my analog for now. Thanks though.

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    Forbidden - Posted 8:37 am PDT 03/26/10 (803 Posts)  Report Spam

    Well I use my yellow digital out from my Sound Blaster card into these 10 year old FPS 2000 speakers.
    I bought the Z-4 Logitech Speakers for $90 and found out they are analog and go into the green jack on the sound card. These Logitechs got amazing reviews too and just plain sucked to what I was used to with the digital output and the FPS 2000.
    So if your confused by that #4 I have no idea how to help you.
    Its called analog vs digital out...hope this helps someone because many of you are gettig ripped off buying analog speakers and plugging them into sound cards that are capable of doing digital.
    Just trying to help...

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    Forbidden - Posted 9:09 am PDT 03/26/10 (803 Posts)  Report Spam

    #7

    I am saying if you plug your speakers into the green jack on a Sound Card then you are going to get analog sound...end of story, I dont care how much the analog speakers cost.
    You are not getting the clarity and digital output of plugging it into a digital jack on your sound card with a set of speakers that accept digital inputs.
    If you want to argue that then wow...I have nothing more to say.

    Trust me take the Pepsi challenge and buy a digital set of speakers and a analog set and plug them into this card and you will see a huge difference using the digital jack with the digital speakers.

    Many have the digital jack just sitting there unused and use the analog jack because the market loves selling analog speakers all day.
    Why even buy a sound card with digital out if your just gonna use analog speakers!?
    Might as well us the onboard sound card for that...

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    TheMax7 - Posted 9:17 am PDT 03/26/10 (1209 Posts)  Report Spam

    You do realize the only thing 'Digital' in your setup is that you have move the D/A converter from the pre-amp in the sound card to the pre-amp in the speakers. All things equal there is no difference. Your speakers are analog, your amp is analog, there is no difference. You must have a bad analog output coming from your soundcard. Sorry but this is just the way it is. Like #7 says, only very long runs will benefit from a digital signal. Thanks for reading.

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    Forbidden - Posted 9:33 am PDT 03/26/10 (803 Posts)  Report Spam

    Oh well I tried helping some of you anyways.
    Keep using the analog jack everyone with your digital out sound card...from the above posts it makes the most sense.
    lol

    Oh yeah and RCA composite jacks for your HDTV are better then HDMI.
    Analog Vs Digital people

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    TheMax7 - Posted 9:54 am PDT 03/26/10 (1209 Posts)  Report Spam

    My audio comes out thru my HDMI cable. Smile I know you mean well by your post and we thank you for that. I do have a receiver that has two computers hooked up to it. One via Optical input and the other analog green cable, and yet the Optical does sound much better. But thats because the computer with the optical output has a highend audio card and the other computer is just the headphone jack. If I take that headphone jack out and plug it into the highend audio card 'green' output it sounds the same as the optical. The DAC in my receiver is just as good as the one in my computer so all I have done is move the digital conversion from one place to the other, the speakers are still the same. But on the other computer the crappy analog sounds bad cause it not of great quality. Quality analog is almost no difference from digital at most levels, at very high levels or during quiet passages you can notice some subtile differences. Thanks for reading again.

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    archetype - Posted 10:42 am PDT 03/26/10 (114 Posts)  Report Spam

    To solve all of the confusion between having to decide what sounds better, digital or analog? Just take the analog out from your Soundcard and the digital in from your receiver and then hook them both together and connect them up to one of these:

    http://www.watcheditem.com/search/0/Computer_Accessories/31530/desc/watchers/keywords/seiko.html

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    archetype - Posted 10:45 am PDT 03/26/10 (114 Posts)  Report Spam

    To solve all of the confusion between having to decide what sounds better, digital or analog? Just take the analog out from your Soundcard and the digital in from your receiver and then hook them both together and connect them up to one of these:

    http://www.watcheditem.com/search/0/Computer_Accessories/31530/desc/watchers/keywords/seiko.html

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    zippy2 - Posted 12:14 pm PDT 03/26/10 (255 Posts)  Report Spam

    Try both outputs and use your ears. Smile

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    Forbidden - Posted 1:24 pm PDT 03/26/10 (803 Posts)  Report Spam

    lol #14...too bad most people didnt buy speakers with a digital input though to try that out!
    Im just trying to help people...dont get a analog speaker system if you have a digital out port on your sound card.
    You will be surprised at how crip and un-distorted your audio is.
    Problem is the market is flooded with analog cheapo computer speakers because its the most compaptible for people who DONT have a digital out on their sound card.
    Its falls under the common sense category...

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    dave_c - Posted 1:38 pm PDT 03/26/10 (17698 Posts)  Report Spam

    Common sense would dictate that whatever additional money you're spending on the digital input feature would probably result in higher sound quality if it were spent on the next grade up in analog speaker-amp set instead.

    The difference in sound quality moving from analog to digital is simply less than the difference in moving up in analog component choices.

    I'm putting it in the perspective of a computer's audio chain meaning sound, amp and speakers all together usually cost under $200, while on a home stereo or home theatre set you've already spent enough for decent quality in these areas so the addition of digital signal transmission makes more sense.

    99.9% of the time if you have a poor result and think it's because of an analog signal it is rather a poor quality amp circuit... the same poor quality amp circuit would sound like crap if it had a digital decoder sitting right before it in the audio chain too.

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    dave_c - Posted 1:40 pm PDT 03/26/10 (17698 Posts)  Report Spam

    As for finding one that sounds very crisp and clean, the most common reason for that is contrasting a poor quality analog amp with (any) digital amp. People say the same even with the cheapo digital amps like Sonic Impact T-amp... and that's taking an analog signal to the amp, not a digital signal input.

    IIRC Sonic Impact doesn't make the T-Amp anymore, but it's not a big loss since it had such a low output power. There are some pretty good sounding pre-designed kits at 41kz.com if you're into such things.
    http://www.41hz.com/shop/category.asp?catid=2

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