i'll take 50

If you had taked biology or something scientific in shhool you would not take your ears for granted; they are an engineering marvel (the ears, not the mp3 players). You might not even know that high volume and lack of air circulation may be damaging to your ears, which, by the way, are higher high-tech than the MP3 MP4 players.

these any good?

Lack of air circulation to the ears because of headphones? I suppose it's true... But where's the scientific proof or something?

I prefer not needing headphones =)

i prefer not to take the advice of a person who took something scientific in school and used the work 'taked'.

I enjoy the external speaker on mine, i put it on my desk at work and listen to some tunes without blocking out all the other things I need to hear

New Zen X-Fi is the best player I have owned (and I've owned most including the Cowan D2. PC World picked it as the #1 player on the market. Read the review on pcworld bacon.

At this price, you're better off spending a few dollars more and buying an ipod touch. Then you have youtube, surfing the web, etc plus all those iPhone apps you can download.

very tempting. i have a $75 credit at dell and have been trying to figure out what to get!

The Zune was just $200 a week ago, its 120GB, this is not so great. Wait for a better device, this is ok, but not very special all things considered. Definitely not equal to a Zune or ipod touch.

The Zune 120gb is hard drive based, this flash, so not comparable. Hard drive based don't handle drops well and you can't run or anything like that with them. I got a Sansa View 16gb flash refurb for < $90 recently.

so many buttons, not enough fingers.