got a 32 gig 2nd gen ipod touch for 20 bucks more

i prefer zune over this. or ipod touch.

to small of screen for anything other than text of whats playing, watch tv or movies on it? NOT!

Where #1? I call BS...

Looks neat

I call BS on #1 also, where did you get it?

#1 made his ipod touch out of thin air

check the history on this item before buying...DELL did sell it for $180 five weeks ago

I don't see why Creative made these. The Zen Vision W was amazing. They should have kept that line going.

#4, #6, and #7. ebay.com paypal 10 percent + 30 percent off live.com through microsoft.so that equals 40percent off. you call me bs i call you ignorant. thank you cybermonday.

next up ipod Air in response to #7

The new ones aren't that much diffrent from the old generation stuff. I paid $89 for 4Gig and it is great. I don't think any of the new stuff is going to make it $150 better.

probably has better sound processing, but without the aesthetics, this will never sell.

The ebay live thing has a max of 200/300 though, can't remember exactly. It's still a nice deal anyway [image]

New Zen X-Fi is the best player I have owned (and I've owned most including the Cowan D2. PC World picked it as the #1 player on the market. Read the review on pcworld bacon. Considering Apple does at least 10 times the advertising in their magazine, that's impressive.

How's the sound on these?