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Posted at 4:07 PM on Tuesday 05/26/09 by
Ben
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NewEgg has the GIGABYTE GV-R435OC-512I Radeon HD 4350 512MB 64-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Video Card for $40 - $5 off with coupon code GBYTEWU [Exp 5/31] - $15 rebate [Exp 5/31] = $20 with free shipping. Good NewEgg.com user reviews. Features an HDMI port and a 650MHz core clock.
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    DogFart - Posted 4:11 pm PDT 05/26/09 (482 Posts)  Report Spam

    Hey guys, this looks like a nice deal. Will this work with my cd-rom and nero?

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    pfleck - Posted 4:25 pm PDT 05/26/09 (72 Posts)  Report Spam

    Dear Mr. Fart-

    You have way too much time on your hands.

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    Anonymous - Posted 4:26 pm PDT 05/26/09 (16776936 Posts)  Report Spam

    DogFart wrote:
    Hey guys, this looks like a nice deal. Will this work with my cd-rom and nero?


    NO.

    ATI doesn't work with ANYTHING. Their drivers are the worst baconnaise imaginable.

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    Towncivilian - Posted 5:02 pm PDT 05/26/09 (1236 Posts)  Report Spam

    Ben, I've never heard of "NewEgg.comNew York & Company". Quit drinking so much.

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    kevin5588 - Posted 5:21 pm PDT 05/26/09 (25 Posts)  Report Spam

    It's $15 after rebate now! I am going to get one.

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    CompWiz17 - Posted 5:41 pm PDT 05/26/09 (4902 Posts)  Report Spam

    At $15, this is an excellent deal. This card comes with a low profile bracket, an HDMI output(with integrated surround sound over HDMI), and full HD video acceleration, making it an excellent card for a HTPC.

    The only downside is that it doesn't have a passive cooler. However, none of the newegg reviews on this card complain about the fan on the card being noisy, so maybe it's quiet enough for a HTPC. Really, at this price, you can't go wrong.

    Of course, this is not a gaming card. If you plan on playing any modern video games, you should get at least a GeForce 9600GSO 768mb card for $40. Of course, if you can spend a bit more, there are definitely better cards available.

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    redtag - Posted 5:53 pm PDT 05/26/09 (59 Posts)  Report Spam

    I'm just waitin' till the 4770's come back in stock.

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    DogFart - Posted 7:00 pm PDT 05/26/09 (482 Posts)  Report Spam

    Hey guys, love the great comments.

    If I add an orb fan will I have to remove the original fan? Is it possible to series parallel 3 fans?

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    paininthe - Posted 7:36 pm PDT 05/26/09 (454 Posts)  Report Spam

    I think those titties have more brains than you, DogFart.

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    dave_c - Posted 7:57 pm PDT 05/26/09 (16755 Posts)  Report Spam

    For a HTPC you might as well just start with a board having integrated video, including the output ports you want. HDMI sound for example has historically been better in something like a 8200 chipset based board.

    Funny thing is they promote that it's overclocked, as if someone buys this level of card to get 7FPS instead of 6.5FPS they'd settle for otherwise.

    You might find you can't get sound over HDMI working, a reviewer mentioned that as well. The better solution if you need that feature for a HTPC would be a Geforce 8 or 9 series IGP chipset based motherboard. I think there was an article on Anandtech awhile back about this issue, it might be in the following article but I'm too lazy to read through it all to be sure: http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3430

    The issue of the fan on it isn't just noise level, it's that small, thin, cheap, higher RPM fans like this tend to be the shortest lived components in a system, so eventually you'll probably have to replace it. Since reviewers claim it's quiet it probably isn't very high RPM, but it's probably still higher than 3000RPM.


    No convenient way to mount a replacement fan alone so you're either paying more to replace the whole 'sink, replacing whole card, or getting creative with fan mounting options like taking the 'sink off and drilling holes in the sides of the fans at the 4 corners so you can strap the fan down with wire ties or similar.

    On the other hand, whether you have an immediate use for this card or not it is always handy to have a spare video card around, though personally I'd rather a low end PCI card as it is more versatile in what it can be placed in, and many of them use so little power they barely even need a passive heatsink at all, though if it's too old the ramdac isn't fast... [Truncated]

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    Casecutter - Posted 9:04 pm PDT 05/26/09 (5012 Posts)  Report Spam

    Darn that's a ton of talk on a card that if and when the fan does go you'll probably just toss it... Good God it's $15

    I hear a bunch of talk in older forms that discuss issues of no sound over HDMI, but honesty it seems more about someone using the incorrect adapter, didn't install the HDMI driver, didn't disable in BIOS, and such. I find nothing relevant to this in the last 4-5 months.

    If your building a new system then by all means pick any of the various IGP Mobo's; while for those wanting a quick, cheap, and capable upgrade to some older CPU/Mobo combo, what the heck this will give some legs to your system.

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    moeron - Posted 4:48 am PDT 05/27/09 (376 Posts)  Report Spam

    i picked up the asus 3450 a few months ago for my vostro 220 and have been using it as my htpc. no issues with sound via hdmi. the only problem i'm seeing is some horizontal lines watching movies from time to time...not sure what that is about. i have this connected to my sammy ln46a650. i first tried running the res at 19xx by 1080 but i couldn't read the small font so i had to change it to xxx by 720. (i can remmeber the actual resolutions). any thoughts on the horizontal lines anyone?

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    bmndibb2 - Posted 6:37 am PDT 05/27/09 (809 Posts)  Report Spam

    Try going back to 1920x1080 and increase the DPI (in windows vista/7 in control panel search for DPI) - it will make the text bigger and reduce the resize delay which can cause flicker.

    Hope that helps

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    moeron - Posted 6:55 am PDT 05/27/09 (376 Posts)  Report Spam

    thanks bmndibb2!

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    Anonymous - Posted 10:09 am PDT 05/27/09 (16776936 Posts)  Report Spam

    How about some real info from professionals,

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-graphics,2296-2.html


    Thank you.

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    dave_c - Posted 10:12 am PDT 05/27/09 (16755 Posts)  Report Spam

    <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Casecutter wrote:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Darn that's a ton of talk on a card that if and when the fan does go you'll probably just toss it... Good God it's $15 </td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">

    You're getting close to my point, how much fiddling, repairing, reordering receiving installing testing do you really want to do to save a couple bucks by buying a card with a poor fan and having it fail later?

    <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I hear a bunch of talk in older forms that discuss issues of no sound over HDMI, but honesty it seems more about someone using the incorrect adapter, didn't install the HDMI driver, didn't disable in BIOS, and such. I find nothing relevant to this in the last 4-5 months.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">

    Because you didn't look? A reviewer for this particular card even wrote it, as have several others, possibly everyone with a certain combo of parts. The point is, IF that is an important feature it would make no sense to buy a product where people have already mentioned having problems, versus one where people have mentioned success.

    <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">If your building a new system then by all means pick any of the various IGP Mobo's; while for those wanting a quick, cheap, and capable upgrade to some older CPU/Mobo combo, what the heck this will give some legs to your system.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">

    The performance difference is pointless. If the system is pretty old it's due for CP... [Truncated]

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    hnhan - Posted 10:20 am PDT 05/27/09 (25 Posts)  Report Spam

    I entered the code at the "Promo Code" field, but Newegg didn't accept. Was I suppose to use the code somewhere else? Is it expired? Please help. Thanks.

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    CompWiz17 - Posted 10:47 am PDT 05/27/09 (4902 Posts)  Report Spam

    he162 wrote:
    How about some real info from professionals,

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-graphics,2296-2.html


    Thank you.


    You consider Tom's Hardware to be professionals? Laughing

    I've lost count, how many times have they been found to be running biased benchmarks?

    Also, that page is discussing graphics cards in the price range of $60-110. On this thread we're discussing cards in the $15-$20 range. So, that's not exactly relevant.

    Not only that, but their chart is laughably wrong. For $65, the best card is definitely the Radeon 4830. It's slightly faster than the venerable 8800GT/9800GT, and definitely faster than the Radeon 4670.

    Then, they list a GeForce 9600GT as being the best card for $80. The 9600GT is definitely slower than the Radeon 4830, so I'm not sure why you'd want to pay more to get a slower card. In fact, for $86 you can get a Radeon 4850 which is even faster, and considerably faster than the 9600GT. If you really are OK with a 9600GT level of performance, get a 9600GSO 768MB card for $40. It's certainly not worth $80.

    The Radeon 4770 that they have listed as $100 is closer to a good deal, but the problem is that faster Radeon 4850's are selling for $80-90. Once the 4770 drops down to $70 or lower, then it will be a good deal.

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    Casecutter - Posted 11:23 am PDT 05/27/09 (5012 Posts)  Report Spam

    <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>dave_c wrote:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">do you really want to do to save a couple bucks by buying a card with a poor fan and having it fail later?.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">I read the Eggview and most praises the fan, why do you assume the position that this will or has to fail the moment you install it. So, from that logic that 9400 that Ben list at $50 is a better fan and last longer? I'm from the old school, so modding or fixing isn't a challange for this Ghetto Dog.
    <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Because you didn't look? A reviewer for this particular card even wrote it, as have several others, possibly everyone with a certain combo of parts. The point is, IF that is an important feature it would make no sense to buy a product where people have already mentioned having problems, versus one where people have mentioned success..</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">I would never condem something based on one Eggview. I searched the web for "ATI HDMI sound issue problems" and notice nothing exceptionaly glaring other than what I mentioned. Doesn't sound like you did... one Egg-head coo-ment and you're off in left field!
    <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">The performance difference is pointless. If the system is pretty old it's due for CPU/board/memory upgrade, slow system plus low end video card isn't going to game well, isn't likely to be capable of decoding or displaying 1080p on the monitor, is basically only fit for a secondary use in which what you would want most of all is to not have to monitor it so ... [Truncated]

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    CompWiz17 - Posted 11:32 am PDT 05/27/09 (4902 Posts)  Report Spam

    dave_c wrote:

    The performance difference is pointless. If the system is pretty old it's due for CPU/board/memory upgrade, slow system plus low end video card isn't going to game well, isn't likely to be capable of decoding or displaying 1080p on the monitor


    This is not a gaming card. Even for an older system, this is not a card you'd buy to play video games.

    However, this card has built-in full HD video acceleration. The whole point of that is so that you don't need a fast CPU to play back HD video. So, this card could turn an old computer into a HTPC, fully capable of playing 1080p video.

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