Logitech has the Logitech Transporter SE: Network Music Player for $1300 - $300 off with coupon code logi_tse_62812 [Exp 6/28] = $1000 with free shipping. Features dual fluorescent displays, backlit infrared remote, support for rack mount brackets, Ethernet/Wi-Fi and 120db dynamic range.
This is designed for those who listen to serious music like classical and jazz but even rock music sounds incredible when goes through this. Used to be $2000 a four years ago but now at a $1000 is a true steal. It takes the sharp edges away from the digitized music. Simply, my CDs sound incredible and as beautiful as the LPs when played through this. Only for people with high end stereo: best speakers, amp, pre-amp, etc. What an incredible deal!
^ no this is designed for people who want to impress others with how much they spent on audio toys. At even $500 it's nowhere near worth the price.
You can't insert bits into digital music that come from lossy codecs and make it right again, in fact an audiophile setup will reveal the flaws from compression MORE not less because it more accurately plays the source.
LPs didn't sound incredible, they were Low-Fi, everything sounded garbled in that era and the only reason we were ok with it was music itself was relatively low fidelity at the time, people were comparing it against AM radio, lol.
Know why an audio setup with this in it sounds good? It's because anyone who spends $1K + on this would also spend a lot on the components that really matter, the amp and speakers.
You all can take these comments to an AV forum and argue them until you are blue in the face. You will not be able to convince anybody of what you can hear and what they can hear from a $500 equipment vs. a $25,000 equipment. Same is true with this unit. It has balanced output and a fairly expensive A/D converter. That's worth around $600 by itself. If you can't hear it then it doesn't matter. People prefer the warmer sounds of LP's vs. CD and will not change that's why you are seeing LP's popping up here and there. The idea of this unit is not to put digits back into a lossy format music. It is meant to get the most out of the music that is not compressed. What people get out of it depends on their own taste.
^ No need to argue. Serious audiophiles revert to blind ABX testing by peers with themselves as the test subject.
If you can't consistently pick a component out as making a positive difference w/o knowing what gear you're listening to, then for all practical purposes it was a waste if it costs more.
Balanced output and a better than average DAC is worth $50 over same thing without, unless you're running crazy long analog runs which is a poor setup in general, nobody serious about their music does long distance low level signal runs with analog.
That's what good DAC's are going to cost. There are a lot more expensive stuff than these, but that's what this Transporter unit is: A middle range DAC unit that is a good deal at $1000 or less. If you don't hear the difference, you are not going to agree with it.
That's what good DAC's are going to cost. There are a lot more expensive stuff than these, but that's what this Transporter unit is: A middle range DAC unit that is a good deal at $1000 or less. If you don't hear the difference, you are not going to agree with it.
Isn't it using a Burr-Brown 1792A?
The MOST expensive version of the 1792A DAC is only $23 at digikey, least expensive in stock is $13.
I could probably build a whole DAC box myself for under $100 total, maybe $150 for a fancier version, even paying a premium for parts at a count of only single digit # each instead of thousands at a time bulk pricing that manufacturers get.
However you are right, I'm not going to agree with paying hundreds more for a retail product just because the DAC is ~ -130dB, most other parts of the circuit will make more difference.
This thing is even more overpriced than the Nexus Q.
Can someone explain why this exists? I've been streaming movies for years and it didnt cost anywhere near $1k.
It exists because there are people out there who fall prey to marketing.
why would anyone ever buy something like this for a grand!?
extremely overpriced product
It's the Dyson vacuum cleaner of music players...
For $100, maybe $200, but $1000 is just stupid.
This is designed for those who listen to serious music like classical and jazz but even rock music sounds incredible when goes through this. Used to be $2000 a four years ago but now at a $1000 is a true steal. It takes the sharp edges away from the digitized music. Simply, my CDs sound incredible and as beautiful as the LPs when played through this. Only for people with high end stereo: best speakers, amp, pre-amp, etc. What an incredible deal!
^ no this is designed for people who want to impress others with how much they spent on audio toys. At even $500 it's nowhere near worth the price.
You can't insert bits into digital music that come from lossy codecs and make it right again, in fact an audiophile setup will reveal the flaws from compression MORE not less because it more accurately plays the source.
LPs didn't sound incredible, they were Low-Fi, everything sounded garbled in that era and the only reason we were ok with it was music itself was relatively low fidelity at the time, people were comparing it against AM radio, lol.
Know why an audio setup with this in it sounds good? It's because anyone who spends $1K + on this would also spend a lot on the components that really matter, the amp and speakers.
Does it have a Jacka$$ sticker on the front of this unit?
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I'd pay $1000 for a Transporter from the starship Enterprise.
#13 I think you're in the wrong storyline.
You all can take these comments to an AV forum and argue them until you are blue in the face. You will not be able to convince anybody of what you can hear and what they can hear from a $500 equipment vs. a $25,000 equipment. Same is true with this unit. It has balanced output and a fairly expensive A/D converter. That's worth around $600 by itself. If you can't hear it then it doesn't matter. People prefer the warmer sounds of LP's vs. CD and will not change that's why you are seeing LP's popping up here and there. The idea of this unit is not to put digits back into a lossy format music. It is meant to get the most out of the music that is not compressed. What people get out of it depends on their own taste.
^ No need to argue. Serious audiophiles revert to blind ABX testing by peers with themselves as the test subject.
If you can't consistently pick a component out as making a positive difference w/o knowing what gear you're listening to, then for all practical purposes it was a waste if it costs more.
Balanced output and a better than average DAC is worth $50 over same thing without, unless you're running crazy long analog runs which is a poor setup in general, nobody serious about their music does long distance low level signal runs with analog.
Is this worth $600?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829132023
no
That's what good DAC's are going to cost. There are a lot more expensive stuff than these, but that's what this Transporter unit is: A middle range DAC unit that is a good deal at $1000 or less. If you don't hear the difference, you are not going to agree with it.
Isn't it using a Burr-Brown 1792A?
The MOST expensive version of the 1792A DAC is only $23 at digikey, least expensive in stock is $13.
I could probably build a whole DAC box myself for under $100 total, maybe $150 for a fancier version, even paying a premium for parts at a count of only single digit # each instead of thousands at a time bulk pricing that manufacturers get.
However you are right, I'm not going to agree with paying hundreds more for a retail product just because the DAC is ~ -130dB, most other parts of the circuit will make more difference.