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Posted at 6:17 AM on Monday 02/13/12 by
ShadowM
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    mikegrmi - Posted 6:48 am PST 02/13/12 (565 Posts)  Report Spam

    You would think a full featured remote dimmer like this would be CFL and LED compatible, but it is not listed in the product description. With Incandescent bulbs being phased out, the usefulness of this item could be short lived.

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    turtles - Posted 7:47 am PST 02/13/12 (890 Posts)  Report Spam

    incandescent bulbs are being phased out? should i buy them all up, put them in a giant warehouse and wait?

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    mikegrmi - Posted 8:05 am PST 02/13/12 (565 Posts)  Report Spam

    ^ Some people are stock piling bulbs, but I don't think it's a great idea. As LED lights get better and cheaper you may find yourself with a bunch of inefficient bulbs that no one wants and would cost you far more to use.

    Or maybe you were just joking?

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    chunga - Posted 8:13 am PST 02/13/12 (4 Posts)  Report Spam

    Don't buy cfl bulbs they have mercury in them and you can't throw them in the trash.

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    edziurka - Posted 9:46 am PST 02/13/12 (5 Posts)  Report Spam

    ^ sure you can, you just open the garbage can and throw one in there.

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    LocalMan - Posted 9:54 am PST 02/13/12 (39 Posts)  Report Spam

    That's a lot of buttons on a remote to dim and turn lights on and off.

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    utharay - Posted 12:57 pm PST 02/13/12 (150 Posts)  Report Spam

    Future is LED. i managed to get 3 LEDs and 1 halogen lamp to work with a halogen dimmer. 4 LEDs did not work with the halogen dimmer. I am planning to get a LED dimmer. Great LEDs at amazon.

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    dave_c - Posted 1:26 pm PST 02/13/12 (17707 Posts)  Report Spam

    It is not possible to make wall dimmer that is universally compatible with LED or CFL bulbs given today's (cost effective) LED and CFL bulb circuits.

    Either specific bulbs are used which were designed to incorporate the specific dimming method used by a mated wall controller (which won't work with incandescents, or CFLs without a built in dimming feature), or you will have to use the crude/cheap unregulated type high-LED-count bulbs that put several in series to drop voltage and even then it's a rapid non-linear light adjustment.

    Similarly with CFLs, you can buy a dimming capable CFL, but that doesn't make any dimmer capable of dimming them, compatible with CFLs that aren't the dimming capable type (which is any that aren't expressly described as such).

    Further there is no industry wide standard for method of implementing dimming CFL or LED bulbs, you can't really knock a dimmer product for not being able to do what none of them can at any price... the particular bulb circuit design is the crucial element.

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    utharay - Posted 2:15 pm PST 02/13/12 (150 Posts)  Report Spam

    CFLs, LEDs with dimming capability is very confusing. Should you buy new dimmers that can dim cfl, led or should you buy CFLs, LEDs that are dimming capable. Consumers need to be educated. I have dimmable CFLs that work with my old dimmers and are acceptable. LEDs also work ok provided you keep at least one halogen bulb in the mix.

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    dave_c - Posted 2:48 pm PST 02/13/12 (17707 Posts)  Report Spam

    utharay wrote:
    CFLs, LEDs with dimming capability is very confusing. Should you buy new dimmers that can dim cfl, led or should you buy CFLs, LEDs that are dimming capable. Consumers need to be educated. I have dimmable CFLs that work with my old dimmers and are acceptable. LEDs also work ok provided you keep at least one halogen bulb in the mix.


    You should always buy CFLs and LEDs that are dimming capable if the feature is important. These work with dimmers in one of two ways.

    1) The bulbs are designed to vary the output current (LED) or output voltage (CFL) based on input voltage the dimmer module sets, which is most compatible with existing (random) dimmers you can buy, but less precise control of light level and usually quite non-linear, a small initial decrease in setting at the dimmer can cause a larger decrease in light from the bulb. These usually work with incandescent bulbs, are the standard dimmer switches you can buy anywhere.

    2) Some dimmer capable LED bulbs use the AC wiring as a data bus so the dimmer module designed to be used with the series of bulbs, sends a data signal to the bulb which the bulb-integrated (or module beside the LED portion) controller interprets as an incremental decrease in drive current to the LED(s). This type of dimmer won't work at all with incandescents and usually only with same brand and even series or generation of bulbs.

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    falcon - Posted 1:07 am PST 02/14/12 (502 Posts)  Report Spam

    Also...if individual LED could be activated...might be a solution

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    falcon - Posted 1:09 am PST 02/14/12 (502 Posts)  Report Spam

    whats wrong with this idea...LLL...lava lamp LED

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    dorianh49 - Posted 2:36 pm PST 02/14/12 (409 Posts)  Report Spam

    falcon, you're probably joking, but lava lamps need the heat that inefficient incandescent bulbs emit. An LED bulb wouldn't emit enough heat to do much with a lava lamp.

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