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Posted at 5:41 AM on Thursday 09/17/09 by
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      dhho1 - Posted 7:57 am PDT 09/17/09 (2173 Posts)  Report Spam

      any suggestion for a Macbook pro?

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      banderon - Posted 8:26 am PDT 09/17/09 (119 Posts)  Report Spam

      Here's my suggestion for a MBP: don't get one!

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      drpud - Posted 8:37 am PDT 09/17/09 (430 Posts)  Report Spam

      Agrred with #2. Can never justify the huge premium for Apple computers. Sure they look great and love or hate the OS. But NIOT worht paying a 50% premium IMHO. I will never understand a laptop without an integrated DVD burner, either....

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      mk46 - Posted 8:57 am PDT 09/17/09 (173 Posts)  Report Spam

      You would be hard-pressed to find a better laptop than a MBP. Expensive? Yes, certainly. But in every aspect, top-notch engineering backed up with outstanding customer service and technical support. No other manufacturer is even close to Apple in Customer satisfaction, year after year.

      And when a Mac can run Windows faster than most any other laptop out there, and run it longer because of battery performance... the only reason to get a Mac is if quality matters, no matter how you define quality.

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      sguy2130 - Posted 9:11 am PDT 09/17/09 (1031 Posts)  Report Spam

      "when a Mac can run Windows faster than most any other laptop out there"

      Can you back that up.? Does intel design special processors that work faster on Macs?

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      mk46 - Posted 10:04 am PDT 09/17/09 (173 Posts)  Report Spam

      From an article in PC World by Alan Stafford:

      "The fastest Windows Vista notebook we've tested this year (through 10/25/07) is a Mac. Try that again: The fastest Windows Vista notebook we've tested this year--or for that matter, ever--is a Mac. Not a Dell, not a Toshiba, not even an Alienware. The $2419 (plus the price of a copy of Windows Vista, of course) MacBook Pro's PC WorldBench 6 Beta 2 score of 88 beats Gateway's E-265M by a single point, but the MacBook's score is far more impressive simply because Apple couldn't care less whether you run Windows."

      This is now a little dated, but the prices are much less, and the hardware much faster.

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      pastrychef - Posted 10:38 am PDT 09/17/09 (353 Posts)  Report Spam

      @ #1:

      It all depends on what you intend to do with your computer. The major difference between the different models are obviously the screen size. One thing to keep in mind when shopping for a MacBook Pro is that the base GPU is an integrated 9400 and that dedicated GPUs are optional.

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      Dman - Posted 11:23 am PDT 09/17/09 (1172 Posts)  Report Spam

      #5 you got B-U-R-N-E-D!!!

      #6, way to argue with facts and burn #5.

      Hilarious!

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      sguy2130 - Posted 12:13 pm PDT 09/17/09 (1031 Posts)  Report Spam

      Wow #8, lmao at you "hilarious", especially because you think I got burned and are obviously just an rodeo cowboy.

      #6 is clinging to information about windows vista performing faster on a macbook in 2007, because nothing suggests the same with recent data. He had to go back two years to find something that supported his claim.

      His generalization does not necessarily apply anymore and the fact that you think that means I got burned makes you a complete jacka$$. He also is making a claim that all macs run Vista faster, which is completely ridiculous. You need to at least see comparable specs to determine that. So its a moot point.

      That's fine is you guys like tossing that extra $$ to the wind, help the economy Very Happy

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      mk46 - Posted 12:37 pm PDT 09/17/09 (173 Posts)  Report Spam

      Actually I'm not trying to burn anybody. I did not say, nor did I mean to imply that "all macs run Vista faster". I was referring specifically to the MacBook Pro, as was the article that I referenced.

      sguy2130 is absolutely correct in pointing out that the article is nearly 2 years old. However, since the comparison is between intel-based notebooks (both windows and macs) it stands to reason that the faster intel processor that is now available for a mac is also available for any other PC manufacturer. Therefore, the speed difference between a 2 year old mac and a current mac is comparable to the difference one would see between a 2 year old PC and a current PC.

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      sguy2130 - Posted 12:58 pm PDT 09/17/09 (1031 Posts)  Report Spam

      Let me end this. Specs are specs. Performance in general includes, but not is limited to, speed of the HDD, processor, and memory. If you find a Mac and a PC with the same specs, chances are they probably run Vista at the same speed.

      I understand why people buy Macs, some things are better in terms of OS and support.

      But, in general Vista will not run faster on a mac than a pc with the same specs...that is just a myth.

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      bmndibb2 - Posted 1:27 pm PDT 09/17/09 (809 Posts)  Report Spam

      If these had a two button mouse I'd be all over it (and maybe a trackpoint).

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      slikkster - Posted 1:30 pm PDT 09/17/09 (296 Posts)  Report Spam

      Well, let's turn this argument around. Using 2007 as our guide, here's a lifehacker.com article about a "Hackintosh" pc bested a MacBook Pro in an overall performance score: http://lifehacker.com/322866/hackintosh-vs-mac-pro-vs-macbook-pro-benchmarks

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      nikko - Posted 1:32 pm PDT 09/17/09 (665 Posts)  Report Spam

      Quote:
      If these had a two button mouse I'd be all over it (and maybe a trackpoint).

      Mouse buttons are so two years ago.

      The entire trackpad is a button and will happily emulate any number of buttons for you based on taps (one finger tap is left click, two finger tap is right click, etc).

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      mk46 - Posted 2:35 pm PDT 09/17/09 (173 Posts)  Report Spam

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idviJ3EgcAk

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      doesgof - Posted 3:33 pm PDT 09/17/09 (565 Posts)  Report Spam

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JixbzFjv_cU

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      sguy2130 - Posted 7:00 pm PDT 09/17/09 (1031 Posts)  Report Spam

      I broke it down to its simplest form and some people still aren't getting it Smile. Got to love it.

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      smrt - Posted 7:19 pm PDT 09/17/09 (88 Posts)  Report Spam

      how about this...
      do you like macs? then buy a mac and stfu.
      do you like pcs? then buy a pc and stfu.

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      brocky - Posted 12:09 am PDT 09/18/09 (29 Posts)  Report Spam

      dhho1... do yourself a favor and get a Mac. Just not a macbook air. Way too expensive.

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      emp - Posted 7:27 am PDT 09/18/09 (189 Posts)  Report Spam

      adding to #14 you can press the bottom right part of the touchpad for a right click also so it has a right click just no button (I don't believe this version of the air has this though, all the current unibody/pros have it. I find 2 finger tap to be much simpler anyway.

      the mac touch pad is one of the best features that sets a mac apart from a windows machine. I'm not sure I would ever buy a mac desktop though.

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