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Posted at 1:57 AM on Sunday 10/7/12 by
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Ends at 10PM PT. Sellout.woot! has the Makita Cordless Drill Combo Set for $135 + $5 shipping = $140 shipped. Includes a 3/8" cordless impact wrench, 3/8" cordless driver-drill, flashlight, 2 NiCd batteries, charger and heavy duty 16" nylon tool bag.
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    btc909 - Posted 8:55 am PDT 10/7/12 (3337 Posts)  Report Spam

    Ancient NiCAD crap.

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    dave_c - Posted 10:57 am PDT 10/7/12 (20910 Posts)  Report Spam

    NiCd is often superior to other battery tech, that's why it is still so common in cordless tools.

    More recharge cycles, while still retaining good cold weather performance, and much longer till they self-decay/shelf-rot. Li-Ion is great for a pro who has to hold (the weight of) a tool all day long but not so good for a homeowner who doesn't want to throw away their tools every 5 years because a replacement pair of batteries is cost prohibitive.

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    btc909 - Posted 4:00 pm PDT 10/7/12 (3337 Posts)  Report Spam

    NiCAD (same with NiMH) runs dead quickly even without use, heavy, low run time.

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    dave_c - Posted 10:54 pm PDT 10/7/12 (20910 Posts)  Report Spam

    Yes NiCd has an inherent self discharge factor. Even so I stand by what I wrote, a homeowner can wait for a rapid charge cycle and reap the other benefits, while a pro may not be able to accept that.

    The price premium of Li-Ion is worth it if you use the tool constantly. Not so much if you don't.

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    zzyzx - Posted 7:13 am PDT 10/8/12 (5139 Posts)  Report Spam

    #4, do you hold a membership in the NiCd Power Tool Association?

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    cbc - Posted 9:40 am PDT 10/8/12 (37 Posts)  Report Spam

    I would agree with #4. From what I read about Li_Ion batteries, the cells lose their capacity over time regardless.

    "A Standard (Cobalt) Li-ion cell that is full most of the time at 25 °C (77 °F) irreversibly loses approximately 20% capacity per year." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery

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    nextel2010 - Posted 1:22 pm PDT 10/8/12 (551 Posts)  Report Spam

    I'm just a weekend tool user, but I've been on li-on (LXT) for about 3 yrs now. Before that, I was on DeWalt XRP nicads. For me the price premium was worth it. So far the LXT's are holding up well. I also still use the XRP's, but have started switching over to the li-on XRP for the DeWalts too. I agree that the nicads are strong all-condition heavy duty but I was never able to get a lot of recharge cycles out of them even though I took all efforts to minimize the memory effects. Plus the nicads are HEAVY. Absolutely love the li-ons, and yeah, HATE the price. The Makita LXTs are expen$$ive, while the XRP nicads are expen$ive..lol. The DeWalt li-ons are top-flight, and even more expen$$$ive.

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