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Posted at 4:15 PM on Tuesday 08/21/07 by
Ben
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ChiefValue.com has the Maxtor DiamondMax 21 500GB SATA 3.0 Gb/s Hard Drive (STM3500630AS) for $100 - $3 code CPAGTYTWF36 = $97 with free shipping. Features a 16MB Cache and spins at 7200RPM.
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    cyberwolf - Posted 9:19 pm PDT 08/21/07 (630 Posts)  Report Spam

    Consider this for your sample sizes:

    All 4 Maxtors I've ever owned (in the past 5 years) have died on me. All post-warranty. All but one died a horrible no-data-recoverable death. Thank goodness for backups.

    No Seagate's (of the 6 I own) have failed yet. 3 are in-warranty with 3-4 years remaining, 2 each have a year or two remaining, 1 is out of warranty.

    WD has been ok, although I only have 2 of them, both out of warranty now.

    All of the above drives are 3.5" form factor.
    Of my 2.5" drives, a few Fujitsu and a few Hitachi's have failed at about a 50-50 ratio. Not enough data to make a decision.

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    Simon - Posted 9:43 pm PDT 08/21/07 (30 Posts)  Report Spam

    Wow guys stop bitching.

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    hurl3.0 - Posted 10:25 pm PDT 08/21/07 (2471 Posts)  Report Spam

    #1 has achieved what i've been trying to do all my life... rile everyone up without any references to mothers, sisters, or immigrants.

    good job.

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    gottapee - Posted 10:27 pm PDT 08/21/07 (11 Posts)  Report Spam

    I agree with cheap@ss. Maxtor drives suck. Aside from reliability & performance, they are really loud and generate too much heat compared to WD or Seagate or Hitachi or Samsung. Someone mentioned bad batch, but this is more like entire low-end (consumer) line of Maxtor drives are like this and has been for awhile. Google it..bacon's free.

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    eh - Posted 10:59 pm PDT 08/21/07 (119 Posts)  Report Spam

    Why do we always have to keep up with the Cheap@ss?

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    dave_c - Posted 11:12 pm PDT 08/21/07 (16755 Posts)  Report Spam

    gottapee wrote:
    I agree with cheap@ss. Maxtor drives suck. Aside from reliability & performance, they are really loud and generate too much heat compared to WD or Seagate or Hitachi or Samsung. Someone mentioned bad batch, but this is more like entire low-end (consumer) line of Maxtor drives are like this and has been for awhile. Google it..bacon's free.


    Umm, would you feel ignorant if I pointed out that Maxtor isn't making budget drives anymore, that all are seagates in maxtor packaging?

    However, I have to point out that if you ever, ever, ever had any maxtor drive overheat, it was user negligence, any properly cooled chassis will keep any and all grades of maxtors cool enough. Further, some SEAGATES also had an overheating problem in their last generation. Quit brand-bashing, if any drive overheats it was due to the system, as any well implemented system has at least 2x the airflow any modern drive needs.

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    byuan85 - Posted 11:32 pm PDT 08/21/07 (352 Posts)  Report Spam

    here is why most of you are retards:

    everyone knows seagate makes reliable drives. seagate bought maxtor. maxtor drives ARE burp seagates now.

    and yet there are morons who talk about their maxtor drives from 3 years ago failing... MAXTOR WAS A DIFFERENT COMPANY BACK THEN. maxtor burp uses the same technology as seagate. i had a maxtor drive with seagate 7200.10 technology shipped to me last week. GOD... so many freaking morons.

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    Bulldogg629 - Posted 1:11 am PDT 08/22/07 (37 Posts)  Report Spam

    Does it scare anyone else when toddsucks is the voice of reason in a post?

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    Rathmine - Posted 6:02 am PDT 08/22/07 (229 Posts)  Report Spam

    #17, I have to concur. A former employer of mine purchased a 16-bay SCSI DAS enclosure, the backplane of which allowed the hot-swapping of PATA drives. We stocked it with 250 GB Maxtors and set it to RAID 5. After only a few months, the drives began failing en masse. It was housed in a first-class NOC, so power and cooling were in abundance. Of the 16 we purchased, 7 failed by the time I quit. It was amusing watching the IT director cringe every time it barfed.

    And don't get me started on the Maxtors Dell stuffs into their SFF PCs! They might as well inscribe "RIP" onto the disk as its installed at the factory in Malaysia or wherever.

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    cyberwolf - Posted 6:07 am PDT 08/22/07 (630 Posts)  Report Spam

    byuan85 and everyone else -- what makes you believe that when Seagate bought Maxtor they shut down and/or rebuilt the old Maxtor fabrication facilities to be exactly like the Seagate facilities? The Maxtor branded drives are STILL the same unless confirmed re-badges of actual Seagate drives. Also, Maxtor drives are typically being sold for less, which means that Seagate is trying to keep the market segmented and have both a lower-end brand (Maxtor) and a higher-end brand (Seagate). When companies do this they typically use higher production- and material-quality variances and looser quality controls on the lower-end brand. Often they don't NEED to do that because they've acquired the fabrication plants from an inferior company in an effort to claim some additional market share. OK, enough of the business lesson today except for the rhetorical question again -- how could you possibly believe that the Maxtor factories were suddenly transformed into Seagate factories? (And if you did believe that, wouldn't it take some time to do? And wouldn't that create a supply and demand problem, driving up both manufacturing costs as well as market prices?)

    Just my theory. Yours may be different and both of us may be incorrect.

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    guyver2077 - Posted 6:27 am PDT 08/22/07 (572 Posts)  Report Spam

    seagate ftw..

    unless its a rebatched maxtor

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    binaryvisions - Posted 6:28 am PDT 08/22/07 (1049 Posts)  Report Spam

    Who the burp knew that some random hard drive deal would generate 30+ posts?

    My personal experience is that Maxtor drives fail at a slightly higher rate than Seagate or Western Digital. However, I also believe that Maxtor has failed somewhere along the line to generate good will among their customers. When a Seagate fails, you hear "I got my replacement drive in a week after my drive failed, and the service tech gave me a hummer while he installed it." When a Maxtor drive fails, you hear "THIS burp PIECE OF baconnaise MAXTOR DRIVE FAILED AND IT BURNED MY HOUSE DOWN KILLING MY WIFE AND KIDS."

    See the difference?

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    shopper222 - Posted 8:54 am PDT 08/22/07 (379 Posts)  Report Spam

    Smile

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    krisot1995 - Posted 9:06 am PDT 08/22/07 (609 Posts)  Report Spam

    my seagate drive failed after 4 weeks, I got refurbished in 2 week

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    foomench - Posted 10:19 am PDT 08/22/07 (1392 Posts)  Report Spam

    LOL #32.
    Personally I've had WD and IBM/whatever(Hitachi?) failures. I've owned a few Maxtors and haven't had problems. I just buy Seagates now and haven't had one problem with them.

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    frankl45 - Posted 12:21 pm PDT 08/22/07 (1328 Posts)  Report Spam

    WTF $3 savings $80 was a better deal 2 weeks ago.
    ChiefValue, Not.

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    ryu1 - Posted 12:28 pm PDT 08/22/07 (31 Posts)  Report Spam

    Great Price, I am probably going to get one.

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    toddsucks2 - Posted 3:02 pm PDT 08/22/07 (2382 Posts)  Report Spam

    I'm still offended that citing mathematics was insulted and viewed as weak versus citing anecdotal evidence. The guy that did that should really get an education before taking part in the refined debate on Ben's Bargains.

    sincerely,
    toddsucks

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    byuan85 - Posted 8:03 pm PDT 08/22/07 (352 Posts)  Report Spam

    PLEASE #30, READ.

    WE KNOW THEY ARE SEAGATES BECAUSE THEY ARE LABELED 7200.10. how hard is it to burp understand such a simple concept.

    and to address the cheaper price for maxtor drives... the difference in price is due to warranty.

    maxtor = 3 years, seagate = 5 years. basically you're paying about $10 more for seagates because of the extra 2 years. it's the same as buying a protection plan for your router, pci adapter, etc., which usually costs around $10-$15 for an extra year or two of protection.

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    dave_c - Posted 12:33 pm PDT 08/23/07 (16755 Posts)  Report Spam

    <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>cyberwolf wrote:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">byuan85 and everyone else -- what makes you believe that when Seagate bought Maxtor they shut down and/or rebuilt the old Maxtor fabrication facilities to be exactly like the Seagate facilities? </td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">

    They aren't "exactly like" the same model Seagate, THEY ARE the same drive with a Maxtor label. Obviously you haven't ever looked at one, your past bad luck has kept you from buying any.

    <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">The Maxtor branded drives are STILL the same unless confirmed re-badges of actual Seagate drives.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">

    This is so funny. It's been confirmed and we tell you again and then it's doubly confirmed by many people - even easily found information by Google search. There is no further burden to prove to you what you refuse to learn.

    <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Also, Maxtor drives are typically being sold for less, which means that Seagate is trying to keep the market segmented and have both a lower-end brand (Maxtor) and a higher-end brand (Seagate).</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">

    No, it means Seagate is looking to leverage the value of the Maxtor name. Believe it or not, some people see a Maxtor drive online or in a store and choose to buy it for the name. Further, having two popular names, they have twice the perceived market penetration to a prospective buyer.

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