Newegg has the MSI N210-MD512H GeForce 210 512MB 64-bit DDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP and Low Profile Ready Video Card for $40 - $20 rebate [Exp 5/25] = $20 with free shipping. Features a 589MHz core clock and a max resolution of 2560 x 1600.
Worked very nicely as an HTPC video card under Win7 with audio out off the mobo via SPDIF, but did have trouble with audio through HDMI, created bad stutter/lag issues. Didn't troubleshoot the issue since I had another card I could swap in.
1. Yes, "most of those?" users which he is not one of so thanks again for not knowing what you're talking about but still posting your unsubstantiated claim and regurgitated links wrapped up as something anyone asked anybody.
2. I think I'd listen to 3 since they ACTUALLY used it, we could use more post from people with experience with the items and not copy pastebots with narrow understanding.
3. Rock overturned and off he goes waiting for the next thread to honor us with all that scary insight.
4. If you are crippled or something is wrong with you, I will leave you alone otherwise you are just like the rest of us and there's is no people goo to keep you from legitimate ridicule. Remember that stuff about "it" being over you announced back more than a month ago or so? How's that working out for you he162 Factfudger?
Yea #4, put an XFX HD-435X-YNH2 with a single slot passive H/S in a Slim-line enclosure, that a friend purchase and ask if I could do the upgrade. I did a stress test on it and even at ambient room (it was like 74°F) it was leveling a 63°C after 10 min. Went home and pick out a little fan that I wire to 5V to draw fresh air in and pass it over the H/S. It dropped to like 56°C, while it more to just to keep the air flowing... They don't run A/C at the apartment so on hot days they should stay within the safe zone.
I thought the point was it's fanless??? No thanks, just get a better card. Thanks #4 for saving people from having to spend more using a fan on a fan less model which is bacon challenged, No offense.
^ As I've stated in posts previously passive H/S are more often intended for temperature controlled environments (offices) or media enclosures that provide improved air flow. I said for him to get the Gigabyte that is $25, but he thought the XFX was a "better card". (even his wife corrected him) Could they have gotten by without, sure but the fan helps all the components, is probably even more quite, lasts longer, less need to clean and those' are all good things. Let's see what odor this incites...
So you are inciting things now??? Get a clue little Emperor, you stating anything in the past is important how??? As I said before this is fanless and is also intended to be inside a case most likely that has ventilation, no? It's normal environment is inside something so it may fail for that purpose #3 so simply said. No one has said anything about poor ventilation and any case should be able cool this little guy. You already suggested a fan for the fanless design, thanks. You are just jumping #3's s-hit passive aggressively. Do YOU know of a good fanless design card YOU have used that gives good cooling in a well ventilated case or not? Try just PM/spamming people directly so they can see your practiced monologue without interruption?
You are WAY out of line. Casecutter with his 3179 posts has helped a lot of people here and has given lots of great links for more information and or better deals.
You on the other hand, with the amazing 25 posts count, just seem to be able to post the obvious about the products and try to bring down people with actual knowledge. Try to get a life and go somewhere else with your attitude...PLEASE!!
Putting a fan on (or in the case side panel adjacent to) a fanless model is a great idea.
When these low-end cards come with fans as stock, they use a tiny heatsink and higher RPM, low quality short lived fan. You might turn on the system one day and the fan is seized up, so you don't hear your video card baking itself to death.
If you instead get a passively cooled card it comes with a larger heatsink so you not only have larger mounting points for a higher diameter fan (which by virtue of its size can run at much much lower RPM to achieve same airflow), the greater surface area of the heatsink also allows that fan to run at even lower RPM.
The result is you barely even need to give the fan enough power to spin up reliably, it can be inaudible while having more chassis airflow from fans mounted to the front, back, or side of the case is certainly going to cause more noise to escape into the room, and by having those case fans at lower RPM they last longer and build up less dust in the system (or in the case filter panels).
In short, two low RPM fans > one higher RPM fan.
The added bonus is if you didn't pick a decent quality fan or random chance caused it to be defective (bearings), the system would still limp along without the fan spinning thanks to the larger heatsink.
Downside? It's going to take up at least one addt'l adjacent card slot on the mobo, which is not a big deal on most mobos these days with them having almost all the features you need integrated already, but especially in small form factor systems you may not have enough card slots that you can sacrifice one... and yet, ideally in a cramped system you would leave the adjacent slot empty anyway so more air can get to the card. No heatsink works well when there's a solid barrier that keeps air from circulating outside the boundary of the card and keeps the fan recirculating the heated exhaust from the sink.
If you're looking for cheap a linux/ubuntu support card most of those user say this is good.
While most often the inference is the 4350 is every bit or slightly... contender at the same price/package.
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,694223/Geforce-G210-Nvidias-first-DirectX-101-card-
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/270591-33-geforce-gt210-radeon-4350
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1459245
http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=58241
Or, some consider this 210 similar (more or less) to the 9400GT (with features and lower power)
http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=621&card2=578
http://www.motherboards.org/reviews/hardware/1821html
Have a look at this Asus 4350 for the same price and only a $10 Rebate to work with. Also a 3-Y warranty and a lot of Eggview.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121310
Hi case cutter another fine review.
Where do you find the time to spam the video card postings like you do?
Worked very nicely as an HTPC video card under Win7 with audio out off the mobo via SPDIF, but did have trouble with audio through HDMI, created bad stutter/lag issues. Didn't troubleshoot the issue since I had another card I could swap in.
Mine ran really hot and it takes a lot of space. I needed to add a fan to keep it cool so it wouldn't stutter and lock up.
1. Yes, "most of those?" users which he is not one of so thanks again for not knowing what you're talking about but still posting your unsubstantiated claim and regurgitated links wrapped up as something anyone asked anybody.
2. I think I'd listen to 3 since they ACTUALLY used it, we could use more post from people with experience with the items and not copy pastebots with narrow understanding.
3. Rock overturned and off he goes waiting for the next thread to honor us with all that scary insight.
4. If you are crippled or something is wrong with you, I will leave you alone otherwise you are just like the rest of us and there's is no people goo to keep you from legitimate ridicule. Remember that stuff about "it" being over you announced back more than a month ago or so? How's that working out for you he162 Factfudger?
You won't get the rebate so don't even factor that in.
Yea #4, put an XFX HD-435X-YNH2 with a single slot passive H/S in a Slim-line enclosure, that a friend purchase and ask if I could do the upgrade. I did a stress test on it and even at ambient room (it was like 74°F) it was leveling a 63°C after 10 min. Went home and pick out a little fan that I wire to 5V to draw fresh air in and pass it over the H/S. It dropped to like 56°C, while it more to just to keep the air flowing... They don't run A/C at the apartment so on hot days they should stay within the safe zone.
I thought the point was it's fanless??? No thanks, just get a better card. Thanks #4 for saving people from having to spend more using a fan on a fan less model which is bacon challenged, No offense.
^ As I've stated in posts previously passive H/S are more often intended for temperature controlled environments (offices) or media enclosures that provide improved air flow. I said for him to get the Gigabyte that is $25, but he thought the XFX was a "better card". (even his wife corrected him) Could they have gotten by without, sure but the fan helps all the components, is probably even more quite, lasts longer, less need to clean and those' are all good things. Let's see what odor this incites...
So you are inciting things now??? Get a clue little Emperor, you stating anything in the past is important how??? As I said before this is fanless and is also intended to be inside a case most likely that has ventilation, no? It's normal environment is inside something so it may fail for that purpose #3 so simply said. No one has said anything about poor ventilation and any case should be able cool this little guy. You already suggested a fan for the fanless design, thanks. You are just jumping #3's s-hit passive aggressively. Do YOU know of a good fanless design card YOU have used that gives good cooling in a well ventilated case or not? Try just PM/spamming people directly so they can see your practiced monologue without interruption?
ToxicFart
You are WAY out of line. Casecutter with his 3179 posts has helped a lot of people here and has given lots of great links for more information and or better deals.
You on the other hand, with the amazing 25 posts count, just seem to be able to post the obvious about the products and try to bring down people with actual knowledge. Try to get a life and go somewhere else with your attitude...PLEASE!!
Putting a fan on (or in the case side panel adjacent to) a fanless model is a great idea.
When these low-end cards come with fans as stock, they use a tiny heatsink and higher RPM, low quality short lived fan. You might turn on the system one day and the fan is seized up, so you don't hear your video card baking itself to death.
If you instead get a passively cooled card it comes with a larger heatsink so you not only have larger mounting points for a higher diameter fan (which by virtue of its size can run at much much lower RPM to achieve same airflow), the greater surface area of the heatsink also allows that fan to run at even lower RPM.
The result is you barely even need to give the fan enough power to spin up reliably, it can be inaudible while having more chassis airflow from fans mounted to the front, back, or side of the case is certainly going to cause more noise to escape into the room, and by having those case fans at lower RPM they last longer and build up less dust in the system (or in the case filter panels).
In short, two low RPM fans > one higher RPM fan.
The added bonus is if you didn't pick a decent quality fan or random chance caused it to be defective (bearings), the system would still limp along without the fan spinning thanks to the larger heatsink.
Downside? It's going to take up at least one addt'l adjacent card slot on the mobo, which is not a big deal on most mobos these days with them having almost all the features you need integrated already, but especially in small form factor systems you may not have enough card slots that you can sacrifice one... and yet, ideally in a cramped system you would leave the adjacent slot empty anyway so more air can get to the card. No heatsink works well when there's a solid barrier that keeps air from circulating outside the boundary of the card and keeps the fan recirculating the heated exhaust from the sink.
... I just don't think it's worth the bother for…