Is it really worth it to buy a refurb when new is only $30 more?

Yes, because people only think about the short term saving money, not the long term.

this system only looks good in the short term anyway unless you're a biggest loser-type buying it for Wii Fit thinking it'll replace the gym (which it won't, of course)...(READ: expensive dust collector)

Wii fit is a really good exercise program. But you actually have to get off your butt and use it rather than just look at it, imagine that.

shovelware with shitty graphics. when is the next iteration of wii coming out with a decent graphics card?

#4 owned #3

Basically called him a lazy lard ass...

Read user reviews from Newegg. Looks like "refurbished" means broken remotes, missing parts, etc.

I bought a NEW one for $185 from Dell.

Black Friday... I'm guessing $180 or so. When is the black one coming out?