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I have been using Verizon VoiceWing for several months, excellent product, crappy account mangement website. May be a good alternative for ex-Vonage customers who also hate anything AT&T.

if i win the iphone, can i stay with my current verizon plan?

If you win the iPhone you'll be stuck using it on AT&T - my boss bought one a month ago and now I can't understand a damn word he says due to the static. He's in New York City, so no excuses about poor cell coverage.

If it wasn't for that I'd have bought an iPhone day one.

I wonder why Apple would name the thing iphone, when the phone portion sucks. They should have named it ipod with sucky phone.

AT&T is the suck. If you see an AT&T rep crossing the street while driving...speed up.

#2, u can stay with any carrier u want if you win a iphone. there is no conflict! u can use your iphone as an ipod, and carry another verizon phone at the same time. but u just can't use the iphone w/ verizon.

u may want to unlock it, but verizon is using cdma.

Big brother will be listening in on your calls.

Product haiku:

VOIP now?
Happily use Packet8
Cheap, reliable.

I use Vonage, very happy with them

what's the deal with at&t now? there's plenty of triple play offers (landline, internet, cable tv) being offered by other carriers for cheaper

Boycott ATT, they ripoff our Troops in Iraq!!!

if you want voip, try Sunrocket, highly reliable company.

Everyone hates their own cell provider. I've tried most of them, they all suck.

Skype is what, $5/month?

I Like T-Mobile #13.

I like AT&T, #13.

#3, my iPhone works great! Are you sure it's the phone? Do you understand your boss when you're in the same conference room?

Seems like there may be better cost opportunities out there.

I have been using VIA Talk for more than a year with no problems.

Verizon is a CDMA only network (though it has international roaming agreements with GSM carriers since Vodafone owns 45% of Verizon), the iPhone is a GSM phone. This means that you will never be able to use an iPhone on a Verizon network. Verizon supporting CDMA is basically the only reason it exists so they probably won't be abandoning it since they're probably the largest cellular network... not that that has anything to do with VOIP directly.

As for why AT&T sucks: while most telecom companies gladly hand over your private information without a court order to the federal government against their privacy policy, I think AT&T is the only one that happily hosts the NSA at their headquarters and supplies them with a splitter to passively sniff on ALL data and voice traffic on their network.

As long as the US is divided into discrete chunks that AT&T, Verizon, and Qwest have their own exclusive rights too, they will ALL suck.

Save an additional $5.00 (down to 19.99/month) if you have an active AT&T Wireless Acct. That's enough for me to drop Vonage's questionable customer svc.

With the use of cell phone and the cost of a basic deal (around $35) with free nights and long distance, why pay extra for a land line?