Buy.com has the ZyXEL PLA407 KIT Powerline Ethernet Adapter for $108 - $20 rebate [Exp 7/31] = $88 with free shipping. Turns your power lines into a network that goes throughout your home.
How well it works has a lot to do with whether the systems are separated by one or more circuits/breakers so they have to travel a much greater distance back and forth to the junction or breaker box.
When they work well they are better than wifi, no snooping by others over the airwaves, more consistent throughput for HD streaming, downside being you need wifi anyway if you make use of portables-as-portables, like a laptop/etc.
#3 - I agree about the fact that they work. But wifi is still a better solution. Cheaper, doesn't take up a plug space, nor require you to be tied to a wall. I have zero issues streaming over wifi at home. Even use it with networked file systems. As long as you use wifi security, mac addresses inclusion, etc., wifi is pretty secure. You can't say the same for networking over electrical. Pretty easy to capture data emanating over electrical. One of the reasons why the government where secure networks are required, use fibre optics only. Nothing to capture over the airwaves.
I don't know why you'd try to make the argument that WIFI is secure or superior in any way other than mobility. I got some powerline networking stuff for 20 bucks a while back, and it's worked out pefectly for me.
"Doesn't take up a plug space?" Really? That's a factor in your world? And you think your WIFI MAC addresses can't be snooped and cloned? Do you do anything heavily dependent on consistent latency such as gaming? I'm guessing not, or that you don't do it while saturating the WIFI with file transfers and whatnot. Other network / other device interference can make it unreasonable to even try to use WIFI.
Why are you convinced your way is the best always?
#5 - Haven't migrated to HD yet, but in all other respects it works fine for me.
#6 - Feel free to be a negative poster if you'd like. I've been doing IT work since the 286XT. Networking, installations, service delivery, etc. I knows what I know. Did I state wifi is completely secure? No. But with proper security management, most pin heads will go after easier target. id I say spoofing, etc. was not possible? Networking through electrical is not secure at all, unless you are encrypting at the host level. And yes, using up plug space, and requiring my laptops be tied to a wall is not acceptable. And the reason why I think my way is best? Because it is. I'm always open to new concepts though. However, I doubt you are the one to deliver given your people skills.
#9 - Even with a pass through, it may take up one, two or three plugs if you use surge protectors. I do. Most of my used plugs use surge protectors where electronics exist. Add power adapters for some items, and chargers for others, plugs are at a premium.
Do you think the pictured item only takes up it's own plug space?
Not that it matters past that. I still don't want to be tied to a wall, or have may data emanating for anyone that wants to capture it. Also, why pay that much for an older technology that has less security?
It's rather a question of price point, convenience, function, and security.
Wifi is better than through your house wiring unless someone can cite a legitimate reason why it isn't.
I'm willing to continue the discussion, but by email. I won't be on this thread again.
Uhh, I think it's safe to say that both types of network adapters exist because different people have different *needs*. Personally I'd string ethernet cable whenever possible, but would never be without wifi for my laptop.
They still sell these? And at a price higher than a WIFI solution?
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Because WiFi isn't good for every situation, we have WiFi AND a set like this, though we got them for $20 each a few years back. Work great.
How well it works has a lot to do with whether the systems are separated by one or more circuits/breakers so they have to travel a much greater distance back and forth to the junction or breaker box.
When they work well they are better than wifi, no snooping by others over the airwaves, more consistent throughput for HD streaming, downside being you need wifi anyway if you make use of portables-as-portables, like a laptop/etc.
#3 - I agree about the fact that they work. But wifi is still a better solution. Cheaper, doesn't take up a plug space, nor require you to be tied to a wall. I have zero issues streaming over wifi at home. Even use it with networked file systems. As long as you use wifi security, mac addresses inclusion, etc., wifi is pretty secure. You can't say the same for networking over electrical. Pretty easy to capture data emanating over electrical. One of the reasons why the government where secure networks are required, use fibre optics only. Nothing to capture over the airwaves.
You should try to do HD Movie via wifi. It will drive you crazy. (Stop every 5 sec)
I don't know why you'd try to make the argument that WIFI is secure or superior in any way other than mobility. I got some powerline networking stuff for 20 bucks a while back, and it's worked out pefectly for me.
"Doesn't take up a plug space?" Really? That's a factor in your world? And you think your WIFI MAC addresses can't be snooped and cloned? Do you do anything heavily dependent on consistent latency such as gaming? I'm guessing not, or that you don't do it while saturating the WIFI with file transfers and whatnot. Other network / other device interference can make it unreasonable to even try to use WIFI.
Why are you convinced your way is the best always?
Does this work with Linux?
#5 - Haven't migrated to HD yet, but in all other respects it works fine for me.
#6 - Feel free to be a negative poster if you'd like. I've been doing IT work since the 286XT. Networking, installations, service delivery, etc. I knows what I know. Did I state wifi is completely secure? No. But with proper security management, most pin heads will go after easier target. id I say spoofing, etc. was not possible? Networking through electrical is not secure at all, unless you are encrypting at the host level. And yes, using up plug space, and requiring my laptops be tied to a wall is not acceptable. And the reason why I think my way is best? Because it is. I'm always open to new concepts though. However, I doubt you are the one to deliver given your people skills.
How does this take up a plug? The picture shows a passthrough plug on the front.
#9 - Even with a pass through, it may take up one, two or three plugs if you use surge protectors. I do. Most of my used plugs use surge protectors where electronics exist. Add power adapters for some items, and chargers for others, plugs are at a premium.
Do you think the pictured item only takes up it's own plug space?
Not that it matters past that. I still don't want to be tied to a wall, or have may data emanating for anyone that wants to capture it. Also, why pay that much for an older technology that has less security?
It's rather a question of price point, convenience, function, and security.
Wifi is better than through your house wiring unless someone can cite a legitimate reason why it isn't.
I'm willing to continue the discussion, but by email. I won't be on this thread again.
casperimproved@gmail.com
Uhh, I think it's safe to say that both types of network adapters exist because different people have different *needs*. Personally I'd string ethernet cable whenever possible, but would never be without wifi for my laptop.
Thanks Dave. I should not have popped my cork.
But as I did say, I'm willing to listen to others. I just have an issue with non-pc people.
And yes, there is always a reason to justify a way of doing something. If not, it wouldn't have been done.
However, there is usually a better way to do it.